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HTML5 presentation
- crazydiamond 17y agoDoes the amazing presentation go to 5 pages only ?? Rather a HUGE letdown, i'd say.
- davidcuddeback 17y agoNo, it's 46 slides long.
- sketerpot 17y agoThe "Web 2.0 Logo Creatr" slide is both useful and hilarious.
- faramarz 17y agoThat was great! though i didn't get the last comment about IE6. I tried loading the url in IE6 twice, and both times the browser crashed.
- stuntmouse 17y agoThat's probably the point. It should work with Google's compatibility layer.
- Qz 17y agoI realize that HN is a bastion of keyboard-worshippers, but it bugs the hell out of me that I can't click that arrow to progress.
- mhartl 17y agoIndeed; I clicked the arrow three times before realizing it referred to the right arrow key.
- ra 17y agoAhh... I clicked it a couple of times, hit enter then gave up.
- djhomeless 17y agoGood lord, I'm an idiot. I was about to close the browser until I saw your comment :)
- ErrantX 17y agoIndeed you'd have thought that a site showing the future would at least be accessible on a touch screen....
- Terretta 17y ago"The purpose of the presentation is to show the coming bleeding edge features for modern desktop and mobile browsers." Except for mobile browsers without a right arrow key.
- grandalf 17y agothe point was to make you click and then realize it's keyboard nav... i thought it was clever. If they made it clickable nobody would have noticed the keyboard nav.
- upinsmoke 17y agoIt does say "Press" and not "Click"
- jared314 17y agoAwesome. It doesn't work on the Droid, because of the arrow key requirement. I also think it is missing a position-in-presentation indicator, like a progressbar or a smaller zoomed out version along the bottom.
- greenlblue 17y agoDoesn't work in opera. Alignment is screwed up.
- eam 17y agoRead the disclaimer: http://apirocks.com/html5/disclaimer.html http://apirocks.com/html5/disclaimer.html
- doc-film 17y agolots of failures in FF
- whalesalad 17y agoFF is quickly becoming an obsolete browser. iPhone uses Webkit, iPod Touch, iPad, every single Android phone (like the Nexus One and Droid), Chrome on Windows & Mac... every new Mac... the list goes on. I'm all for competition, but Webkit is clearly the champion here.
- squidbot 17y agoThe page crahsed Safari on my iPad.
- devinj 17y agoThat's nice and all, but Firefox is still one of the biggest browsers out there. It's not obsolete, and you can't ignore it if you value users. In fairness, not everyone values users.
- AngryParsley 17y agoReplace "Firefox" with "IE" and your arguments are even more persuasive.
- mgcross 17y agoFF is hardly obsolete. The presentation used vendor-specific extensions (-webkit-) that are not part of the CSS3 spec, much less HTML5. Many of the features could have been implemented in FF had the author used -moz- alongside -webkit-.
- papachito 17y agoFirefox support more stuff than Chrome, for example the FileAPI. http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/FileAPI/ http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/FileAPI/
- xtacy 17y agoIt looks like HTML is no more just Hyper-TEXT Markup Language.. It should perhaps be called Hyper Markup Language.
- jared314 17y agoIt may end up, like SOAP, more name than acronym.
- rimantas 17y agoHTML5 was started by WHATWG which stands for Web Hypertext Applications Technology Working Group. A lot of work shown there is under umbrella of "Web Applications 1.0", see http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ#What_are_the_various_versions_of_the_spec.3F http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ#What_are_the_various_version...
- dinde 17y agoThis is extremely cool. I admit it scared me a little bit just how easy it was to do the geolocation. The web is about to change dramatically, again. :)
- ashleyw 17y agoDoes anyone know where GeoLocation gets the data? My IP is registered to a city 35 miles away, yet it's able to pinpoint where I am within a few meters?
- ugh 17y ago«There are a few common ways to get location information. The most common are local WiFi networks, IP address information, and attached GPS devices. In Firefox 3.5 we use local WiFi networks and IP address information to try and guess your location.» – http://hacks.mozilla.org/2009/06/geolocation/ http://hacks.mozilla.org/2009/06/geolocation/
- yumraj 17y agoTried in FF and in Chrome and the browser "Back" key doesn't work, only <- and -> arrows do. Is this expected of HTML5?
- catch23 17y agoI didn't realize inline-block was considered html5 -- I had been using that for almost 2 years already.
- treyp 17y agoyeah, i thought the same thing. it must have been an error on the part of the author. here it is in the CSS2.1 spec -- http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/visuren.html#display-prop http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/visuren.html#display-prop it looks like it was introduced in CSS 2.1 because it is missing in CSS2 and CSS1: http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-CSS2-20080411/visuren.html#display-prop http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-CSS2-20080411/visuren.html#dis... http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS1/#display http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS1/#display
- lambda 17y agoCool demo, but it's a bit odd to tout new, standard features, when you have a disclaimer that this is only intended to completely work in Google Chrome with experimental features enabled. Part of the excitement is that these features are being standardized, and aren't just one vendor wandering off and doing their own thing without consulting with anyone else. What would be far more impressive would be a demo that worked seamlessly in Firefox, Safari, Chrome, Opera, and IE with Chrome Frame, with graceful degradation (or, preferably, progressive enhancement) for features which aren't implemented yet in IE without Chrome Frame (and the features that aren't yet fully supported cross-browser).
- andrewtj 17y agoThis is a demo of what's at the bleeding edge. To complain that it's not implemented across all browsers with graceful degradation is to be frank, silly.
- rimantas 17y agoToo bad that navigation model chosen does not allow to browse the presentation on iPhone/iPad. Many of those advanced features (session/local/web SQL DB storage, geolocation, CSS transforms/transitions/animations, offline web apps) are supported in Mobile Safari—in fact some appeared there first.
- izendejas 17y agoI tried searching within text and it works okay (in some cases it even moves to the appropriate "slide"). I managed to break things, however. That said, I hope Adobe is scared as hell--and more importantly, that they get their act together... or else.
- rohitarondekar 17y agoVery nice. Not very FF friendly but still very nice. I am liking how the web will be in the coming future. Only need all browser vendors to get their act together and get standards compliant. Microsoft can be augmented with Chrome frame so the one hindering block can be ignored.
- marcamillion 17y agoI wonder if the author will write a tutorial on how he created this. Explaining the presentation elements (I mean).
- natmaster 17y agoUh, why only use webkit specific CSS attributes when there are mozilla ones as well.
- andrewtj 17y agoIt's a tech demo designed for Chrome — a pretty reasonable compromise given it's supposed to show what's coming up in browsers and requires Chrome be invoked with various command line flags to demo all the features.
- Tichy 17y agoI don't have an arrow key on my phone, why not make it advance upon click?
- comex 17y agoI spent at least a minute looking for the "->" button.
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- niels 17y agoThe best HTML5 introduction I've seen so far. Very nice! This just gets me even more excited about the future of web apps.
- kierank 17y agoNobody has said anything about it breaking the back button yet.
- statictype 17y agoIt doesn't. Back moves to the previous slide. That doesn't seem like broken behavior to me.
- kierank 17y agoIt doesn't do anything for me in Srware Iron.
- MicahWedemeyer 17y agoTried it in Chrome, and I'm hella impressed. Everybody else is busy hating on it, but I'd like to thank the developers for putting it together. That 20 minutes of playtime has taught me 10 times as much about what to expect (and why I should be excited) than all the discussions and blog posts I've seen so far. So, while some things didn't work, I'm not going to harp or nag, as overall the presentation was excellent.
- Tycho 17y agoIt was fantastic (on Chrome anyway). Incidentally that 'press arrow key for next page' feature is something I've wished all websites had for a long time - like to leaf through forum pages or article pages.
- zsouthboy 17y agoOpera has a "Next Page" feature that is usually able to do exactly what you ask on most sites/forums. Also, it's smart about it - if you're on a page that it's remembered a username/password for, if you go Next Page (either the mouse gesture or left/right mouse rocker gesture), it'll log you in automatically.
- brown9-2 17y agoWhich browsers are WebGL-enabled? Chrome 5.0.342.9 (beta) does not seem to be.
- stanleydrew 17y agoI think you'll need to use the --enable-webgl command line switch to turn it on. I'm not sure that will work in anything besides the latest dev channel builds though.
- jeff18 17y agoThe WebKit nightly builds are by default. Chrome can be with a runtime flag. FireFox has an about:config flag.
- ryanjmo 17y agoI am most excited about the css; this will cut our development time in half! We aren't going to need images to have decent looking buttons anymore.