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CIA Prepping for Possible Cyber Strike Against Russia

27 points by jackgavigan 10y ago

JumpCrisscross 10y ago
I like this kind of war. "We're airing all your dirty laundry!" "Oh yeah? Then we're shining light on your corrupt dealings!l
- krapp 10y ago
  It's all fun and games until someone shuts off someone else's entire power grid, destroys their banking data or makes their planes fall out of the sky.
  - deleted 10y ago
    [deleted]
  - lostlogin 10y ago
    Or elects Trump. Us in the wider world were getting concerned for a while there.
KnowNothings 10y ago
We have more reason to bomb Saudi Arabia to bits than to attack Russia. I will never fight against Russia even if there is a draft. Stand against your government.
- Alex3917 10y ago
  > We have more reason to bomb Saudi Arabia to bits than to attack Russia. Yeah but Russia doesn't donate as much to the Clinton Foundation.
- spriggan3 10y ago
  With neocons like Hillary Clinton who takes a lot of Saudi money anything is possible except bombing Saudi Arabia. And USA always needed a big bad enemy for fear mongering, Saddam, Bin Laden, Putin, US needs a "big baddy" to justify its insane military spendings.
  - code_sardaukar 10y ago
    Neoconservatism isn't just about the military industrial complex, or oil, it's also about the Jewish lobby.
    - code_sardaukar 10y ago
      Look's like I've said one of those "true if you think it's a good thing, crazy conspiracy if you thank it's a bad thing" facts. No one really denies the link between Jewish Americans, the various Jewish organizations that are active in politics (AIPAC, ADL etc) and US Foreign policy. But people strongly deny this in the context where people criticize foreign policy, and want to redirect discussion towards safe topics like the military industrial complex or oil. Some will say the most American Jews are liberals and therefore wouldn't support neoconservatism. It's true that they are mostly liberals on domestic policy, but by judging candidates on a single issue (Israel) they end up implicitly helping neoconservative thinking, which places the most emphasis in the US-Israel relation.
  - binarray2000 10y ago
    > And USA always needed a big bad enemy for fear mongering Not only for fearmongering. From the pen of a "conspiracy theorist" George F. Kennan, former US ambassador to Moscow and distinguished Council on Foreign Relations member: "Were the Soviet Union to sink tomorrow under the waters of the ocean, the American military-industrial establishment would have to go on, substantially unchanged, until some other adversary could be invented. Anything else would be an unacceptable shock to the American economy."
marcusgarvey 10y ago
The DNC is a private organization. Why does its hacking justify a government-sponsored response?
- idlewords 10y ago
  Because it's one of the two major political parties in a democracy, with an election just around the corner. I feel like you already know the answer to this question.
  - Mikeb85 10y ago
    So? Why does a democracy protect the 2 largest incumbents instead of promoting a freer system in which 3rd parties can have proportional representation?
    - yankyou 10y ago
      You're two thirds of the way to completing the reductio ad absurdum.
      - Mikeb85 10y ago
        You do realize American 'democracy' is absurd to the rest of the world, right? I think most non-Americans who are cheering for Trump are doing so because the Bush/Clinton dynasties have fucked things up so much that anything different would be an improvement.
        aseipp 10y ago
        > I think most non-Americans who are cheering for Trump are doing so because the Bush/Clinton dynasties have fucked things up so much that anything different would be an improvement. Those people would be complete, total dipshits then, if they think Trump will be an improvement -- for the US or anyone else. Luckily, they aren't voting here.
  - marcusgarvey 10y ago
mirekrusin 10y ago
Who reads (and believes) this kind of crap?
- swalsh 10y ago
  NBC News?
binarray2000 10y ago
US MSM and HRC talk about Russia being responsible for cyber attacks. Yet, not a shred of proof is presented to the US and world public. In 2003 US has started another war based on a lie. The "enemy" was weak and had inferior military, yet the war caused deaths of US soldiers and Iraqis, destruction of Iraq and we now have IS(IS). And again we, it seems, have a lie. But now the "enemy" isn't inferior. The chaos US has caused in Iraq will look like a three-year-old-birthday-party compared with the war with Russia. Are we willing to go that far? Have we learned anything from the recent past? Do we really want to destroy the World based on a lie?
ilaksh 10y ago
Weirdest part is they say its covert. How is anything o NBC News going to be covert?
smkellat 10y ago
So much nonsense and buzzword crap are strung together in that piece that I frankly have no clue what this would even amount to. I don't expect much coming of this.

27 points by jackgavigan 10y ago

I like this kind of war. "We're airing all your dirty laundry!" "Oh yeah? Then we're shining light on your corrupt dealings!l

krapp 10y ago
It's all fun and games until someone shuts off someone else's entire power grid, destroys their banking data or makes their planes fall out of the sky.
- deleted 10y ago
  [deleted]
- lostlogin 10y ago
  Or elects Trump. Us in the wider world were getting concerned for a while there.

KnowNothings 10y ago

We have more reason to bomb Saudi Arabia to bits than to attack Russia. I will never fight against Russia even if there is a draft. Stand against your government.

Alex3917 10y ago
> We have more reason to bomb Saudi Arabia to bits than to attack Russia. Yeah but Russia doesn't donate as much to the Clinton Foundation.
spriggan3 10y ago
With neocons like Hillary Clinton who takes a lot of Saudi money anything is possible except bombing Saudi Arabia. And USA always needed a big bad enemy for fear mongering, Saddam, Bin Laden, Putin, US needs a "big baddy" to justify its insane military spendings.
- code_sardaukar 10y ago
  Neoconservatism isn't just about the military industrial complex, or oil, it's also about the Jewish lobby.
  - code_sardaukar 10y ago
    Look's like I've said one of those "true if you think it's a good thing, crazy conspiracy if you thank it's a bad thing" facts. No one really denies the link between Jewish Americans, the various Jewish organizations that are active in politics (AIPAC, ADL etc) and US Foreign policy. But people strongly deny this in the context where people criticize foreign policy, and want to redirect discussion towards safe topics like the military industrial complex or oil. Some will say the most American Jews are liberals and therefore wouldn't support neoconservatism. It's true that they are mostly liberals on domestic policy, but by judging candidates on a single issue (Israel) they end up implicitly helping neoconservative thinking, which places the most emphasis in the US-Israel relation.
- binarray2000 10y ago
  > And USA always needed a big bad enemy for fear mongering Not only for fearmongering. From the pen of a "conspiracy theorist" George F. Kennan, former US ambassador to Moscow and distinguished Council on Foreign Relations member: "Were the Soviet Union to sink tomorrow under the waters of the ocean, the American military-industrial establishment would have to go on, substantially unchanged, until some other adversary could be invented. Anything else would be an unacceptable shock to the American economy."

marcusgarvey 10y ago

The DNC is a private organization. Why does its hacking justify a government-sponsored response?

idlewords 10y ago
Because it's one of the two major political parties in a democracy, with an election just around the corner. I feel like you already know the answer to this question.
- Mikeb85 10y ago
  So? Why does a democracy protect the 2 largest incumbents instead of promoting a freer system in which 3rd parties can have proportional representation?
  - yankyou 10y ago
    You're two thirds of the way to completing the reductio ad absurdum.
    - Mikeb85 10y ago
      You do realize American 'democracy' is absurd to the rest of the world, right? I think most non-Americans who are cheering for Trump are doing so because the Bush/Clinton dynasties have fucked things up so much that anything different would be an improvement.
      - aseipp 10y ago
        > I think most non-Americans who are cheering for Trump are doing so because the Bush/Clinton dynasties have fucked things up so much that anything different would be an improvement. Those people would be complete, total dipshits then, if they think Trump will be an improvement -- for the US or anyone else. Luckily, they aren't voting here.
- marcusgarvey 10y ago

mirekrusin 10y ago

Who reads (and believes) this kind of crap?

swalsh 10y ago
NBC News?

binarray2000 10y ago

US MSM and HRC talk about Russia being responsible for cyber attacks. Yet, not a shred of proof is presented to the US and world public. In 2003 US has started another war based on a lie. The "enemy" was weak and had inferior military, yet the war caused deaths of US soldiers and Iraqis, destruction of Iraq and we now have IS(IS). And again we, it seems, have a lie. But now the "enemy" isn't inferior. The chaos US has caused in Iraq will look like a three-year-old-birthday-party compared with the war with Russia. Are we willing to go that far? Have we learned anything from the recent past? Do we really want to destroy the World based on a lie?

ilaksh 10y ago

Weirdest part is they say its covert. How is anything o NBC News going to be covert?

smkellat 10y ago

So much nonsense and buzzword crap are strung together in that piece that I frankly have no clue what this would even amount to. I don't expect much coming of this.