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The Future is Movie OS

53 points by danhon 16y ago

We make fun of fictional Movie OS because it's "not realistic" (it's not), but haven't recognised that it fixes a problem we've not been dealing with adequately: creating intuitive software user experiences where actions result in transparently understood actions. I argue that the requirements of Movie OS (that they must clearly convey critical plot information) produce clear lessons that we can learn from when we design user experiences. A dialog box with good copy and "Are you sure?" isn't good enough anymore.

bobwaycott 16y ago
For my daily work of pounding out code, I'd certainly want none of this going on. I always disable silly OS animations. However, for my 2 kids who instantly 'get' my iPhone and iPad but feel less secure with my MacBook, I think Movie OS is the kind of thing that would convey useful meaning ... until they understood it all and the varnish wears off and they're asking how to disable the Movie so they can work with the OS.
- danhon 16y ago
  I completely agree - expanding the UI palette lets you use more varied, subtle (or less so) tools in different contexts for different audiences. People who already understand the consequences of their actions may not want/need to be constantly reminded.
  - bensummers 16y ago
    Those of us who are perfectly happy to interact with our computers through a command line are a vanishingly small proportion of people who use a computer. But those of us who dwell in a black screen with white monospaced text and a flashing cursor need to make more human interfaces if we are to make computers more accessible. Movie OS is possibly overkill, but devices like the iPad show promising signs of progress in HCI.
    - danhon 16y ago
      Yes. We need to get other people - people skilled in communicating to large audiences (and these people exist: they just exist as advertisers, graphic novelists, film directors, storyboard artists etc) involved in how we design our interfaces for everyone else, for the people who don't want to use a CLI.
  - lkijuhyghjm 16y ago
    Hmmm - varied At the moment I close my browser in the same way as I close my editor, with the little cross in top right. But I close my new intuitive iPad app by stroking the background image to the top left? Or turning the window upside down? And of course it's different for each app. For what designer interfaces do for you - take a look at all the non-standard, non-rectangular DVD/Mp3 player tools installed by random hardware makers.
patrickk 16y ago
You may be onto something here. I remember reading somewhere that Bond gadgets become true after something like 30 years, however I suspect that this pace of development will be speed up dramatically as time goes on. Some examples off the top of my head: GPS - there's an old Bond movie with a analog 'homing device', weapons on cars, cars that can drive on the road and fly also, 'stealth technology' like in Die Another Day (in development). Getting back to movie inspired OSs, the guy who designed the amazing gesture interface behind those in 'Minority Report' started a company and has prototype UI in development: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwVBzx0LMNQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwVBzx0LMNQ http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/futuristic-minority-report-computer-interface-makes-a-real-life-debut-20100217/ http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/futuristic-minority-repor...
- danhon 16y ago
  Yes. My post was inspired by a discussion I had with someone wondering who was incredibly passionate about helping ordinary non-computer literate audiences -- e.g. the Read/Write Web Facebook Login Fiasco audience -- understand the consequences of their actions when they use a computer. It struck me as interesting that it was Schematic that was able to take the ideas from a interaction system designed to be watched to one that was designed to be used.
- rbanffy 16y ago
  The gesturing interface in MR does not solve the gorilla-arm syndrome problem. Gesture interfaces should be based on slight hand and face movement, maybe with voice cues.
  - bitwize 16y ago
    makes L with fingers Engage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jd1Ih8EUmw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jd1Ih8EUmw
    - patrickk 16y ago
      haha I can easily imagine Steve Jobs dictating commands to his engineers like Captain Picard does on the flight deck: "I want a device so amazing, so jaw-dropping that Jesus himself would want it. It's got to be like the iPhone only bigger, like the Mac OS X, except even more engaging. Make it so" On a serious note though, working out the problems of fatigue from gestures is typical of a technology in it's infancy. The problem of RSI from using a computer mouse isn't resolved fully, for example.
TomasSedovic 16y ago
Unfortunatelly, Movie OS is horrible security-wise.
- Legion 16y ago
  I searched the BugTraq archives and found not one single entry for MovieOS vulnerabilities. Where's the disclosure??
  - Semiapies 16y ago
    The two biggest problems I know of: The available user password space is so small that random jabbing at the keyboard will get you root access in under a minute. The MovieOS developers refuse to remove the UPLOAD VIRUS "functionality" that routes malware past any and all defenses.
    - TomasSedovic 16y ago
      Yep. Also the fact that you can "bruteforce" most password-protected door locks one character at a time.
    - pavel_lishin 16y ago
      Not to mention that it always ships with the "guest" account having root access, and no password. GOOD JOB, GUYS.
  - stcredzero 16y ago
    Just don't run your globe-spanning alien invasion on it until you upgrade the virus protection!
epochwolf 16y ago
And people will still ignore the flashing lights because they want to click the dancing bunny.
- jimbokun 16y ago
  Maybe it will become an arms race of escalating cuteness. The OS designer needs something cuter to draw your attention away from the dancing bunny, which leads the dancing bunny malware author to come up with something even cuter than that, etc.
  - BoppreH 16y ago
    In less than a year your computer will be leaking glitter.
goodness 16y ago
There was an article at UIST (a user interface conference) making similar points about 15 years ago. Here's one free version of the paper: http://research.sun.com/techrep/1995/abstract-33.html http://research.sun.com/techrep/1995/abstract-33.html That paper had some actual concrete recommendations for different kinds of animations that were implemented in Self.
- danhon 16y ago
  Fantastic - thanks!
cookiecaper 16y ago
I guess the thing may be that movies have the luxury of make-believe; that is, they have absolute freedom with these interfaces because as someone else pointed out, they don't actually have to function. Sure, their dialogs and warning messages are great to convey a single important message, but what about someone who needs to do something on the computer that reports the "lockdown" status of an area? And do you really want it displayed with a huge green bar every time you get into something that was previously protected? Aren't there some situations where discretion is preferable? In the milder example of the email flying off the screen, who wants to sit around and wait for a few seconds watching these animations in everyday use? Sure, they're a neat one-off or demo, but when you have a stack of emails to pop off, nobody wants to sit around and wait for that cute little animation to finish. You can probably toggle it, but after the first few times, who would leave it on? It seems like something that would just make grandma's computer usage even slower. I do think that we could probably look at movies more and try to cherry-pick some cool ideas for dialogs or animations, but in general movie widgets, like everything else in the movies, are larger-than-life. They wouldn't work if you tried to deploy them as a real usable UI.
- danhon 16y ago
  "And do you really want it displayed with a huge green bar every time you get into something that was previously protected? Aren't there some situations where discretion is preferable?" Well - we won't know without trying. But it's clear that in the Read/Write Web Facebook case, a bunch of people had thought that they had logged in to Facebook when in fact they hadn't. And that they didn't even know where they were. You may not want it every time. But at the moment, we don't even have it at all. That's restrictive in the kind of messages we can send out. For emails flying off the screen: the execution is in the detail. A few seconds may be too long. For some people, it may not even be long enough. But the animation isn't necessarily just showing that an email is being sent: it can convey a lot of other information in a clear, yet subtle way. It's interesting that there's no visual cue when an email is sent that distinguishes between sending to a single individual or a group of people, or an even larger group of people.
  - stcredzero 16y ago
rythie 16y ago
To me, many of the issues are the computer telling the user about stuff they shouldn't have to worry about. For example, wouldn't cloud computing solve most of these problems by not giving the responsibility for the problem to the user? Change your battery You shouldn't lose your work if the battery fails Formatting this volume... People would not do sys. admin themselves like this Permanent delete With storage so large nowadays, there is no particular reason to delete something for space reasons. Disk full Shouldn't happen, in the cloud it could never happen, you just get charged more. Gmail for example was designed never to get full. Checking for software In the cloud it would always be upto. date Downloading messages progress bar Well with web apps it's either loaded or it's not. Of course these are not the only problems, but are the type that are most difficult for users because they are more about sys. admin than getting the task done.
- danhon 16y ago
  I disagree, but I can see where you're coming from based on the examples I picked (which were all biased toward operating system maintenance actions, given the source material). From the point of view of a naive user, there are new types of interactions that can have massive social implications: e.g. changing Facebook relationship status. At the moment, the notification of that status change to the user is pretty minimal. It does not, for example, make clear that that change will be propagated to, say, over 500 people, and all of their contacts. There may be people who are more concerned about their social standing than whether they've accidentally formatted a volume or not.
  - rythie 16y ago
    Well really the problem with Facebook is that's too complex. Though I'd agree there are non-sys admin problems that people have, but the worst problems are all sys. admin type ones, viruses, out of space, slowness. The user-space stuff is nice to have, though the movies tend to have some impressive visualization and lots of data (like floorplans, schematics etc.) in order to show things like that. Facebook could maybe show a picture of your 500 friends and say "sending..." though.
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fjabre 16y ago
Completely 100% agreed. Apple already knows this which is why is makes such heavy use of animations and lavish graphics in its UIs.
rntz 16y ago
I have to say, I hope the future looks a lot less like Movie OS and a lot more like the Anti-Mac: http://www.useit.com/papers/anti-mac.html http://www.useit.com/papers/anti-mac.html
- theBobMcCormick 16y ago
  I thought this was a great quote from the Anti-Mac article: "The desktop metaphor assumes we save training time by taking advantage of the time that users have already invested in learning to operate the traditional office with its paper documents and filing cabinets. But the next generation of users will make their learning investments with computers, and it is counterproductive to give them interfaces based on awkward imitations of obsolete technologies." It reminds me of a recent (non-computer related) incident in my own life. My son's preschool teachers recently had the students in my son's class do an art project where they made phones out of two pieces of construction paper and a piece of yarn. The two pieces of construction paper were cut to look like a old Bell telephone handset and base. I'm sure some of you can see where this is going... the amusing, to me at least, result was that all of the children followed directions and built their project, but couldn't identify what it was. Most of them had never seen telephones with a cord and couldn't figure out how an object too big to fit in your pocket was supposed to be a phone. :-) I think this illustrates a long term problem with computer interfaces that mimic real world objects and/or interactions, even in the simple case of icons that resemble real-world objects. The real world changes. We haven't had to deal with that much yet, because visual computer user interfaces have only been prevalent so recently. But as time wears on, I think this is only going to get more awkward. As an example related to my story above, both the iPhone UI and the Android UI use an icon that looks like an old Bell telephone handset to represent the dialer. That image still makes sense to my generation, but IMHO to my kids it's just gonna look like a wierd abstract symbol. Similarly, many applications use an icon that looks like a Rolodex to represent the "phonebook" application. Heck, I think I've got co-workers who've never seen a Rolodex!.
  - Raphael 16y ago
    Just as floppy has become the icon for Save buttons. You and I have used floppies, so it makes a fair amount of sense, but many people will never see a real one.
andrewvc 16y ago
I think to a certain extent we already had Movie OS in the early 00s / late 90s when all kinds of apps were skinned. People would make all kinds of baroque skins that looked like they came out of movies, that acted much like this, but you know what? They were cluttered and hard to use. Who remembers Winamp 3, with its fancy skins[1]. I know I breathed a sigh of relief when iTunes with its simple, yet highly functional, interface came out. 1. As an example: http://www.thg.ru/technews/images/winamp_skin-270206.jpg http://www.thg.ru/technews/images/winamp_skin-270206.jpg
- danhon 16y ago
  This misses the point. Skinning - in the Winamp model of 'same functionality but different look' - is not the same as effective visual storytelling and usage of animation. I'm not talking about just how Movie OS looks, but how it behaves as a whole. I agree that sticking a Star Trek skin on Windows 98 reduces usability.
  - andrewvc 16y ago
    Well, then why do all the examples in the article look like those horrible skinned apps? I have a feeling that what the author proposes leads us down the road of pretty but ridiculous interfaces.
- pavel_lishin 16y ago
  Do you remember Winamp 2? When people tried to make "fancy skins", and failed even more miserably? And iTunes is highly functional? Since when?
- k33n 16y ago
  Does anyone remember Neoplanet? The skinnable browser?
  - benkant 16y ago
    Vaguely. It was around in about '99 or 2000? If I remember correctly it was the IE COM (Webview was it?) object embedded in an app? Also I remember it being pretty useless outside of looking nice. In retrospect it probably didn't even look that nice, I can't recall.
OSTwister 16y ago
I think it's nice for a UI to show you things in a way you can respond to on an almost instinctive level, but will it help with UI designers who just don't think?
nzmsv 16y ago
Interestingly enough, the "It's a UNIX operating system" moment from Jurassic Park used real software. It's called fsn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fsn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fsn
- OSTwister 16y ago
  You know, having taking a look at FSN's home page I really don't think I would want file sizes represented in either of the ways it does. I've been using Eagle Mode for about a week - a zoomable UI - and while it's ugly I really can't praise the file manager highly enough. It is a fantastic improvement over the best conventional file managers, but representing file size visually would ruin it. http://eaglemode.sourceforge.net/ http://eaglemode.sourceforge.net/
  - barrkel 16y ago
    I just installed Eagle Mode - very interesting indeed. The fact that you can put instructions, documentation etc. right there in situ with the relevant controls is quite interesting.

53 points by danhon 16y ago

bobwaycott 16y ago

For my daily work of pounding out code, I'd certainly want none of this going on. I always disable silly OS animations. However, for my 2 kids who instantly 'get' my iPhone and iPad but feel less secure with my MacBook, I think Movie OS is the kind of thing that would convey useful meaning ... until they understood it all and the varnish wears off and they're asking how to disable the Movie so they can work with the OS.

danhon 16y ago
I completely agree - expanding the UI palette lets you use more varied, subtle (or less so) tools in different contexts for different audiences. People who already understand the consequences of their actions may not want/need to be constantly reminded.
- bensummers 16y ago
  Those of us who are perfectly happy to interact with our computers through a command line are a vanishingly small proportion of people who use a computer. But those of us who dwell in a black screen with white monospaced text and a flashing cursor need to make more human interfaces if we are to make computers more accessible. Movie OS is possibly overkill, but devices like the iPad show promising signs of progress in HCI.
  - danhon 16y ago
    Yes. We need to get other people - people skilled in communicating to large audiences (and these people exist: they just exist as advertisers, graphic novelists, film directors, storyboard artists etc) involved in how we design our interfaces for everyone else, for the people who don't want to use a CLI.
- lkijuhyghjm 16y ago
  Hmmm - varied At the moment I close my browser in the same way as I close my editor, with the little cross in top right. But I close my new intuitive iPad app by stroking the background image to the top left? Or turning the window upside down? And of course it's different for each app. For what designer interfaces do for you - take a look at all the non-standard, non-rectangular DVD/Mp3 player tools installed by random hardware makers.

patrickk 16y ago

You may be onto something here. I remember reading somewhere that Bond gadgets become true after something like 30 years, however I suspect that this pace of development will be speed up dramatically as time goes on. Some examples off the top of my head: GPS - there's an old Bond movie with a analog 'homing device', weapons on cars, cars that can drive on the road and fly also, 'stealth technology' like in Die Another Day (in development). Getting back to movie inspired OSs, the guy who designed the amazing gesture interface behind those in 'Minority Report' started a company and has prototype UI in development: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwVBzx0LMNQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwVBzx0LMNQ http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/futuristic-minority-report-computer-interface-makes-a-real-life-debut-20100217/ http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/futuristic-minority-repor...

danhon 16y ago
Yes. My post was inspired by a discussion I had with someone wondering who was incredibly passionate about helping ordinary non-computer literate audiences -- e.g. the Read/Write Web Facebook Login Fiasco audience -- understand the consequences of their actions when they use a computer. It struck me as interesting that it was Schematic that was able to take the ideas from a interaction system designed to be watched to one that was designed to be used.
rbanffy 16y ago
The gesturing interface in MR does not solve the gorilla-arm syndrome problem. Gesture interfaces should be based on slight hand and face movement, maybe with voice cues.
- bitwize 16y ago
  makes L with fingers Engage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jd1Ih8EUmw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jd1Ih8EUmw
  - patrickk 16y ago
    haha I can easily imagine Steve Jobs dictating commands to his engineers like Captain Picard does on the flight deck: "I want a device so amazing, so jaw-dropping that Jesus himself would want it. It's got to be like the iPhone only bigger, like the Mac OS X, except even more engaging. Make it so" On a serious note though, working out the problems of fatigue from gestures is typical of a technology in it's infancy. The problem of RSI from using a computer mouse isn't resolved fully, for example.

TomasSedovic 16y ago

Unfortunatelly, Movie OS is horrible security-wise.

Legion 16y ago
I searched the BugTraq archives and found not one single entry for MovieOS vulnerabilities. Where's the disclosure??
- Semiapies 16y ago
  The two biggest problems I know of: The available user password space is so small that random jabbing at the keyboard will get you root access in under a minute. The MovieOS developers refuse to remove the UPLOAD VIRUS "functionality" that routes malware past any and all defenses.
  - TomasSedovic 16y ago
    Yep. Also the fact that you can "bruteforce" most password-protected door locks one character at a time.
  - pavel_lishin 16y ago
    Not to mention that it always ships with the "guest" account having root access, and no password. GOOD JOB, GUYS.
- stcredzero 16y ago
  Just don't run your globe-spanning alien invasion on it until you upgrade the virus protection!

epochwolf 16y ago

And people will still ignore the flashing lights because they want to click the dancing bunny.

jimbokun 16y ago
Maybe it will become an arms race of escalating cuteness. The OS designer needs something cuter to draw your attention away from the dancing bunny, which leads the dancing bunny malware author to come up with something even cuter than that, etc.
- BoppreH 16y ago
  In less than a year your computer will be leaking glitter.

goodness 16y ago

There was an article at UIST (a user interface conference) making similar points about 15 years ago. Here's one free version of the paper: http://research.sun.com/techrep/1995/abstract-33.html http://research.sun.com/techrep/1995/abstract-33.html That paper had some actual concrete recommendations for different kinds of animations that were implemented in Self.

danhon 16y ago
Fantastic - thanks!

cookiecaper 16y ago

I guess the thing may be that movies have the luxury of make-believe; that is, they have absolute freedom with these interfaces because as someone else pointed out, they don't actually have to function. Sure, their dialogs and warning messages are great to convey a single important message, but what about someone who needs to do something on the computer that reports the "lockdown" status of an area? And do you really want it displayed with a huge green bar every time you get into something that was previously protected? Aren't there some situations where discretion is preferable? In the milder example of the email flying off the screen, who wants to sit around and wait for a few seconds watching these animations in everyday use? Sure, they're a neat one-off or demo, but when you have a stack of emails to pop off, nobody wants to sit around and wait for that cute little animation to finish. You can probably toggle it, but after the first few times, who would leave it on? It seems like something that would just make grandma's computer usage even slower. I do think that we could probably look at movies more and try to cherry-pick some cool ideas for dialogs or animations, but in general movie widgets, like everything else in the movies, are larger-than-life. They wouldn't work if you tried to deploy them as a real usable UI.

danhon 16y ago
"And do you really want it displayed with a huge green bar every time you get into something that was previously protected? Aren't there some situations where discretion is preferable?" Well - we won't know without trying. But it's clear that in the Read/Write Web Facebook case, a bunch of people had thought that they had logged in to Facebook when in fact they hadn't. And that they didn't even know where they were. You may not want it every time. But at the moment, we don't even have it at all. That's restrictive in the kind of messages we can send out. For emails flying off the screen: the execution is in the detail. A few seconds may be too long. For some people, it may not even be long enough. But the animation isn't necessarily just showing that an email is being sent: it can convey a lot of other information in a clear, yet subtle way. It's interesting that there's no visual cue when an email is sent that distinguishes between sending to a single individual or a group of people, or an even larger group of people.
- stcredzero 16y ago

rythie 16y ago

To me, many of the issues are the computer telling the user about stuff they shouldn't have to worry about. For example, wouldn't cloud computing solve most of these problems by not giving the responsibility for the problem to the user? Change your battery You shouldn't lose your work if the battery fails Formatting this volume... People would not do sys. admin themselves like this Permanent delete With storage so large nowadays, there is no particular reason to delete something for space reasons. Disk full Shouldn't happen, in the cloud it could never happen, you just get charged more. Gmail for example was designed never to get full. Checking for software In the cloud it would always be upto. date Downloading messages progress bar Well with web apps it's either loaded or it's not. Of course these are not the only problems, but are the type that are most difficult for users because they are more about sys. admin than getting the task done.

danhon 16y ago
I disagree, but I can see where you're coming from based on the examples I picked (which were all biased toward operating system maintenance actions, given the source material). From the point of view of a naive user, there are new types of interactions that can have massive social implications: e.g. changing Facebook relationship status. At the moment, the notification of that status change to the user is pretty minimal. It does not, for example, make clear that that change will be propagated to, say, over 500 people, and all of their contacts. There may be people who are more concerned about their social standing than whether they've accidentally formatted a volume or not.
- rythie 16y ago
  Well really the problem with Facebook is that's too complex. Though I'd agree there are non-sys admin problems that people have, but the worst problems are all sys. admin type ones, viruses, out of space, slowness. The user-space stuff is nice to have, though the movies tend to have some impressive visualization and lots of data (like floorplans, schematics etc.) in order to show things like that. Facebook could maybe show a picture of your 500 friends and say "sending..." though.
  - 16y ago

fjabre 16y ago

Completely 100% agreed. Apple already knows this which is why is makes such heavy use of animations and lavish graphics in its UIs.

rntz 16y ago

I have to say, I hope the future looks a lot less like Movie OS and a lot more like the Anti-Mac: http://www.useit.com/papers/anti-mac.html http://www.useit.com/papers/anti-mac.html

theBobMcCormick 16y ago
I thought this was a great quote from the Anti-Mac article: "The desktop metaphor assumes we save training time by taking advantage of the time that users have already invested in learning to operate the traditional office with its paper documents and filing cabinets. But the next generation of users will make their learning investments with computers, and it is counterproductive to give them interfaces based on awkward imitations of obsolete technologies." It reminds me of a recent (non-computer related) incident in my own life. My son's preschool teachers recently had the students in my son's class do an art project where they made phones out of two pieces of construction paper and a piece of yarn. The two pieces of construction paper were cut to look like a old Bell telephone handset and base. I'm sure some of you can see where this is going... the amusing, to me at least, result was that all of the children followed directions and built their project, but couldn't identify what it was. Most of them had never seen telephones with a cord and couldn't figure out how an object too big to fit in your pocket was supposed to be a phone. :-) I think this illustrates a long term problem with computer interfaces that mimic real world objects and/or interactions, even in the simple case of icons that resemble real-world objects. The real world changes. We haven't had to deal with that much yet, because visual computer user interfaces have only been prevalent so recently. But as time wears on, I think this is only going to get more awkward. As an example related to my story above, both the iPhone UI and the Android UI use an icon that looks like an old Bell telephone handset to represent the dialer. That image still makes sense to my generation, but IMHO to my kids it's just gonna look like a wierd abstract symbol. Similarly, many applications use an icon that looks like a Rolodex to represent the "phonebook" application. Heck, I think I've got co-workers who've never seen a Rolodex!.
- Raphael 16y ago
  Just as floppy has become the icon for Save buttons. You and I have used floppies, so it makes a fair amount of sense, but many people will never see a real one.

andrewvc 16y ago

I think to a certain extent we already had Movie OS in the early 00s / late 90s when all kinds of apps were skinned. People would make all kinds of baroque skins that looked like they came out of movies, that acted much like this, but you know what? They were cluttered and hard to use. Who remembers Winamp 3, with its fancy skins[1]. I know I breathed a sigh of relief when iTunes with its simple, yet highly functional, interface came out. 1. As an example: http://www.thg.ru/technews/images/winamp_skin-270206.jpg http://www.thg.ru/technews/images/winamp_skin-270206.jpg

danhon 16y ago
This misses the point. Skinning - in the Winamp model of 'same functionality but different look' - is not the same as effective visual storytelling and usage of animation. I'm not talking about just how Movie OS looks, but how it behaves as a whole. I agree that sticking a Star Trek skin on Windows 98 reduces usability.
- andrewvc 16y ago
  Well, then why do all the examples in the article look like those horrible skinned apps? I have a feeling that what the author proposes leads us down the road of pretty but ridiculous interfaces.
pavel_lishin 16y ago
Do you remember Winamp 2? When people tried to make "fancy skins", and failed even more miserably? And iTunes is highly functional? Since when?
k33n 16y ago
Does anyone remember Neoplanet? The skinnable browser?
- benkant 16y ago
  Vaguely. It was around in about '99 or 2000? If I remember correctly it was the IE COM (Webview was it?) object embedded in an app? Also I remember it being pretty useless outside of looking nice. In retrospect it probably didn't even look that nice, I can't recall.

OSTwister 16y ago

I think it's nice for a UI to show you things in a way you can respond to on an almost instinctive level, but will it help with UI designers who just don't think?

nzmsv 16y ago

Interestingly enough, the "It's a UNIX operating system" moment from Jurassic Park used real software. It's called fsn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fsn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fsn

OSTwister 16y ago
You know, having taking a look at FSN's home page I really don't think I would want file sizes represented in either of the ways it does. I've been using Eagle Mode for about a week - a zoomable UI - and while it's ugly I really can't praise the file manager highly enough. It is a fantastic improvement over the best conventional file managers, but representing file size visually would ruin it. http://eaglemode.sourceforge.net/ http://eaglemode.sourceforge.net/
- barrkel 16y ago
  I just installed Eagle Mode - very interesting indeed. The fact that you can put instructions, documentation etc. right there in situ with the relevant controls is quite interesting.