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> I have no doubt there is some correlation between astrological sign and personality. There's no evidence of this, so you should have doubts.

nonbel 10y ago
Sure there is, I found thousands of papers on it with one simple search: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=season+of+birth https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=season+of+birth EG: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0034866 http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27310922 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27310922 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25132151 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25132151 I don't know much about astrology, but your "sign" is determined by the birthday right? From my understanding, it is basically a way of binning together sets of birthdays. There will probably be various artifacts and noise introduced by the binning process, but I am sure with large enough sample size you will see the correlation.
- amelius 10y ago
  http://www.medicaldaily.com/how-birth-month-influences-personality-traits-ironic-science-astrological-signs-333274 http://www.medicaldaily.com/how-birth-month-influences-perso...
- Mz 10y ago
  I don't know much about astrology, Then please kindly don't defend it. but your "sign" is determined by the birthday right? I have actually studied astrology. Serious astrologers loathe sun sign astrology.
  - nonbel 10y ago
    I wasn't defending astrology, I was attacking the pseudoscientific thought process being used to attack astrology.
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- gnaritas 10y ago
  No, you didn't anything relevant there about personality types; personality disorders are a vastly different subject. > I don't know much about astrology, Now we agree.
  - nonbel 10y ago
    Well, I tried searching "Myers Briggs season", etc. I didn't find any data on it all. It is one of those topics... too many low quality (unscholarly: not citing references , etc) sources popped up so I won't waste any further time on it. I assure you with large enough sample size you will find some correlations though.
    - gnaritas 10y ago
      > I assure you with large enough sample size you will find some correlations though. I can correlations the drop in pirates with a rise in global temperature, so what... correlations don't mean a damn thing by themselves, that's just data-mining bias.
      - nonbel 10y ago
        No, it is not data-mining bias. There really is a correlation. It is real, but realizing that has no usefulness at all.
        gnaritas 10y ago
        The correlation with pirates is real too, that's my point, correlations don't mean anything. Only causation is meaningful. The only use of a correlation is as a starting point for finding causation.
        nonbel 10y ago
        Actually... I think causation may largely be a red herring as well. Our most successful models really do not incorporate it at all. They are in the form of F=ma or PV=nRT. There is no causality there.

nonbel 10y ago

Sure there is, I found thousands of papers on it with one simple search: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=season+of+birth https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=season+of+birth EG: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0034866 http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27310922 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27310922 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25132151 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25132151 I don't know much about astrology, but your "sign" is determined by the birthday right? From my understanding, it is basically a way of binning together sets of birthdays. There will probably be various artifacts and noise introduced by the binning process, but I am sure with large enough sample size you will see the correlation.

amelius 10y ago
http://www.medicaldaily.com/how-birth-month-influences-personality-traits-ironic-science-astrological-signs-333274 http://www.medicaldaily.com/how-birth-month-influences-perso...
Mz 10y ago
I don't know much about astrology, Then please kindly don't defend it. but your "sign" is determined by the birthday right? I have actually studied astrology. Serious astrologers loathe sun sign astrology.
- nonbel 10y ago
  I wasn't defending astrology, I was attacking the pseudoscientific thought process being used to attack astrology.
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gnaritas 10y ago
No, you didn't anything relevant there about personality types; personality disorders are a vastly different subject. > I don't know much about astrology, Now we agree.
- nonbel 10y ago
  Well, I tried searching "Myers Briggs season", etc. I didn't find any data on it all. It is one of those topics... too many low quality (unscholarly: not citing references , etc) sources popped up so I won't waste any further time on it. I assure you with large enough sample size you will find some correlations though.
  - gnaritas 10y ago
    > I assure you with large enough sample size you will find some correlations though. I can correlations the drop in pirates with a rise in global temperature, so what... correlations don't mean a damn thing by themselves, that's just data-mining bias.
    - nonbel 10y ago
      No, it is not data-mining bias. There really is a correlation. It is real, but realizing that has no usefulness at all.
      - gnaritas 10y ago
        The correlation with pirates is real too, that's my point, correlations don't mean anything. Only causation is meaningful. The only use of a correlation is as a starting point for finding causation.
        nonbel 10y ago
        Actually... I think causation may largely be a red herring as well. Our most successful models really do not incorporate it at all. They are in the form of F=ma or PV=nRT. There is no causality there.