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Pornography was a poor choice of industry to make your point, considering that that female performers routinely make more money than their male counterparts. A

by J-dawg 10y ago

Pornography was a poor choice of industry to make your point, considering that that female performers routinely make more money than their male counterparts. Also, we're talking about IT. I'm not sure what it proves to cherry pick 3 industries where (you say) women are treated badly. I could say the same thing about refuse collection, gardening and unskilled construction work. Oh look! Some predominantly male jobs also have low pay and poor conditions!

nostrebored 10y ago
Female "performers" also are responsible for paying for the medical care, and in an industry in which there is frequent tearing of orifices, contraction of STIs, and long term injury which their male counterparts do not receive to the same degree (dudes are not getting gonorrhea in their eye), pay is significantly more comparable than you expect. Also, maybe you're completely unaware, the type of sex that women have in porn is much more dangerous to them than men. People who work in refuse collection, gardening, and unskilled construction work have legal protections that get exercised. The linked article does a very good in depth explanation of why "sex work" is not compatible with the standards we have for work in the US [1]. 1. http://logosjournal.com/2014/watson/ http://logosjournal.com/2014/watson/
- dismantlethesun 10y ago
  As a response to the linked article. Firstly, it the openner is rather more focused on prostitution which is commonly illegal, rather than pornography which is legal. To summarize, it maintains that due to the fact that you are handling bodily fluids during sex work, to get up to OSHA minimums you would need: 1. No oral sex 2. Gloves to be worn at all times 3. Masks and face shields must be worn at all times 4. Full-length aprons, and protective bodywear to be worn at all times In the whole... the entire article is silly and real laws concerning sex-work would have to take into account to actually accomplish the act someone is going to have to take their clothes off. Additionally, due to harassment laws concerning workplaces: 1. All clients of sex workers must no longer solicit because solicitation of sex is sexual harassment in the workplace 2. As an interesting converse to this, all sex workers must now accept all kinds of clients in order to not be seen as refusing service to a protected class So the article proposes that solicitation should be illegal (it already is for prostitutes) and that even asking a pornographic actor or actress to perform a specific act should be illegal. Rather all pornography should happen naturally, without any direction at all. Certainly an ... interesting ... article, but not a very useful one.
  - nostrebored 10y ago
    How you came to those conclusions is frankly beyond me -- the article argues that pornography is an exploitative industry that is inherently contrary to OSHA standards. The absurdities you're pointing out are the crux of the argument.
    - dismantlethesun 10y ago
      Which conclusions are you disagreeing with? > the article argues that pornography is an exploitative industry that is inherently contrary to OSHA standards I agreed and summarized why.

by J-dawg 10y ago

nostrebored 10y ago

Female "performers" also are responsible for paying for the medical care, and in an industry in which there is frequent tearing of orifices, contraction of STIs, and long term injury which their male counterparts do not receive to the same degree (dudes are not getting gonorrhea in their eye), pay is significantly more comparable than you expect. Also, maybe you're completely unaware, the type of sex that women have in porn is much more dangerous to them than men. People who work in refuse collection, gardening, and unskilled construction work have legal protections that get exercised. The linked article does a very good in depth explanation of why "sex work" is not compatible with the standards we have for work in the US [1]. 1. http://logosjournal.com/2014/watson/ http://logosjournal.com/2014/watson/

dismantlethesun 10y ago
As a response to the linked article. Firstly, it the openner is rather more focused on prostitution which is commonly illegal, rather than pornography which is legal. To summarize, it maintains that due to the fact that you are handling bodily fluids during sex work, to get up to OSHA minimums you would need: 1. No oral sex 2. Gloves to be worn at all times 3. Masks and face shields must be worn at all times 4. Full-length aprons, and protective bodywear to be worn at all times In the whole... the entire article is silly and real laws concerning sex-work would have to take into account to actually accomplish the act someone is going to have to take their clothes off. Additionally, due to harassment laws concerning workplaces: 1. All clients of sex workers must no longer solicit because solicitation of sex is sexual harassment in the workplace 2. As an interesting converse to this, all sex workers must now accept all kinds of clients in order to not be seen as refusing service to a protected class So the article proposes that solicitation should be illegal (it already is for prostitutes) and that even asking a pornographic actor or actress to perform a specific act should be illegal. Rather all pornography should happen naturally, without any direction at all. Certainly an ... interesting ... article, but not a very useful one.
- nostrebored 10y ago
  How you came to those conclusions is frankly beyond me -- the article argues that pornography is an exploitative industry that is inherently contrary to OSHA standards. The absurdities you're pointing out are the crux of the argument.
  - dismantlethesun 10y ago
    Which conclusions are you disagreeing with? > the article argues that pornography is an exploitative industry that is inherently contrary to OSHA standards I agreed and summarized why.