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Yes I would. Given the inconsistency of results that the Myers-Briggs test outputs for individuals, the personality of that person who tested as an INTJ could b

Yes I would. Given the inconsistency of results that the Myers-Briggs test outputs for individuals, the personality of that person who tested as an INTJ could be far from it normally. Furthermore, your willingness to buy into the narrative (and others' willingness to also believe it) that by categorizing certain people into stereotypes and assuming that most of these people tend to excel at a particular set of tasks is most likely what limits them from excelling at tasks that lie outside of their respective sets just as much as their true predisposition to not excelling at them.

amelius 10y ago
Then please point me to the research, because the article does a lousy job at it. Saying that any profiling technique has zero predictive value is a very bold claim. Even one's astrological sign has predictive value: [1]. And yes, this has been scientifically proven. [1] http://www.medicaldaily.com/how-birth-month-influences-personality-traits-ironic-science-astrological-signs-333274 http://www.medicaldaily.com/how-birth-month-influences-perso...
- taco_emoji 10y ago
  Why is it the job of the skeptic to prove that a profiling technique does not have predictive power? Shouldn't you have to prove that it does?
  - amelius 10y ago
    Because it is very hard for a test not to have predictive power. For example, companies fruitfully extract predictive power from whether a user clicked a link or not. Facebook extracts predictive power from whether users like videos, et cetera. So why shouldn't an elaborate test that was developed to have meaning, not have any predictive power?
    - AstralStorm 10y ago
      Not having predictive power means it is not better than chance at predicting any X. There are results that show MBTI has no predictive power against job performance. It has not been tested against any other measure. That said, MBTI shows bad orthogonality in the factors in its response. This suggests the factors are ill defined.
      - amelius 10y ago
        > There are results that show MBTI has no predictive power against job performance. Could you provide a reference?
        AstralStorm 10y ago
        Provided by another person in this thread already.
- maverick_iceman 10y ago
  Don't invert the burden of proof.

amelius 10y ago

Then please point me to the research, because the article does a lousy job at it. Saying that any profiling technique has zero predictive value is a very bold claim. Even one's astrological sign has predictive value: [1]. And yes, this has been scientifically proven. [1] http://www.medicaldaily.com/how-birth-month-influences-personality-traits-ironic-science-astrological-signs-333274 http://www.medicaldaily.com/how-birth-month-influences-perso...

taco_emoji 10y ago
Why is it the job of the skeptic to prove that a profiling technique does not have predictive power? Shouldn't you have to prove that it does?
- amelius 10y ago
  Because it is very hard for a test not to have predictive power. For example, companies fruitfully extract predictive power from whether a user clicked a link or not. Facebook extracts predictive power from whether users like videos, et cetera. So why shouldn't an elaborate test that was developed to have meaning, not have any predictive power?
  - AstralStorm 10y ago
    Not having predictive power means it is not better than chance at predicting any X. There are results that show MBTI has no predictive power against job performance. It has not been tested against any other measure. That said, MBTI shows bad orthogonality in the factors in its response. This suggests the factors are ill defined.
    - amelius 10y ago
      > There are results that show MBTI has no predictive power against job performance. Could you provide a reference?
      - AstralStorm 10y ago
        Provided by another person in this thread already.
maverick_iceman 10y ago
Don't invert the burden of proof.