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Damn. That's one major failure. Now I really want a postmortem on the real cause of these fires.

RGamma 10y ago
Apparently some rare manufacturing fault that put pressure on internal poles, short-circuiting the battery: https://www.cnet.com/news/why-is-samsung-galaxy-note-7-exploding-overheating/ https://www.cnet.com/news/why-is-samsung-galaxy-note-7-explo...
- walterbell 10y ago
  Still unclear why some replacements (which have batteries from a different supplier) are exhibiting a similar failure mode.
  - aqzman 10y ago
    Could it have been an issue with the deign of the battery itself, so the failure would happen regardless of who manufactured the battery?
    - walterbell 10y ago
      Why do batteries need to be unique for each model? Some laptop lines (e.g. Lenovo) share removable batteries among models with similar power needs. Same used to be true of phones which had removable batteries from the same phone vendor.
      - Zelmor 10y ago
        Because everybody wants to be special. Size, weight, optimalization, screen edge corner angle, etc. It is a senseless, unsustainable development practice that creates much waste each year. Nobody seems to look at the future, everybody just wants to win in the here and now. 4 degrees later, we are all gone. The batteries remain, for a while. In 2135 CE, the last Samsung battery too will catch fire, starting an unstoppable wildfire that will consume much of Eurasia, along with whoever survived the previous social collapse. Then, only ashes will remain. Fuck the pandas, save ourselves.
        mcphage 10y ago
        > Fuck the pandas, save ourselves. Maybe fucking pandas is your thing, who am I to judge, but I really don't think doing so will save us.
        pluma 10y ago
        > Fuck the pandas To be fair, the lack of fucking pandas do is a major hurdle in their conservation.
      - creshal 10y ago
        That was before flagship phones needed to become thinner and bigger every few months. Can't have commonality of parts if your six months old battery is thicker than the whole new phone. (There's still plenty of phones with replaceable, more-or-less standardized batteries available… but it's $50-200 phones that nobody wants to buy because they're not sexy enough. Even though they've been fast enough for years…)
        godson_drafty 10y ago
        Another problem with $50-200 phones is horrible cameras.
      - TazeTSchnitzel 10y ago
        Custom batteries mean you can make optimal use of space within the device (i.e. pack in more battery life in a smaller form factor).
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  - skrowl 10y ago
    My guess is that it's some other manufacturing defect and they were just in such a hurry to say "Yay we fixed it!" that they completely overlooked it before they shipped the replacement devices. While the stories are all over the media, the truth is that there are less than 100 failures out of something like 3 million devices. I don't know about you guys, but if a bug only appears in my code in 0.003% of the time, I know I have a really hard time finding it.

Apparently some rare manufacturing fault that put pressure on internal poles, short-circuiting the battery: https://www.cnet.com/news/why-is-samsung-galaxy-note-7-exploding-overheating/ https://www.cnet.com/news/why-is-samsung-galaxy-note-7-explo...

walterbell 10y ago
Still unclear why some replacements (which have batteries from a different supplier) are exhibiting a similar failure mode.
- aqzman 10y ago
  Could it have been an issue with the deign of the battery itself, so the failure would happen regardless of who manufactured the battery?
  - walterbell 10y ago
    Why do batteries need to be unique for each model? Some laptop lines (e.g. Lenovo) share removable batteries among models with similar power needs. Same used to be true of phones which had removable batteries from the same phone vendor.
    - Zelmor 10y ago
      Because everybody wants to be special. Size, weight, optimalization, screen edge corner angle, etc. It is a senseless, unsustainable development practice that creates much waste each year. Nobody seems to look at the future, everybody just wants to win in the here and now. 4 degrees later, we are all gone. The batteries remain, for a while. In 2135 CE, the last Samsung battery too will catch fire, starting an unstoppable wildfire that will consume much of Eurasia, along with whoever survived the previous social collapse. Then, only ashes will remain. Fuck the pandas, save ourselves.
      - mcphage 10y ago
        > Fuck the pandas, save ourselves. Maybe fucking pandas is your thing, who am I to judge, but I really don't think doing so will save us.
      - pluma 10y ago
        > Fuck the pandas To be fair, the lack of fucking pandas do is a major hurdle in their conservation.
    - creshal 10y ago
      That was before flagship phones needed to become thinner and bigger every few months. Can't have commonality of parts if your six months old battery is thicker than the whole new phone. (There's still plenty of phones with replaceable, more-or-less standardized batteries available… but it's $50-200 phones that nobody wants to buy because they're not sexy enough. Even though they've been fast enough for years…)
      - godson_drafty 10y ago
        Another problem with $50-200 phones is horrible cameras.
    - TazeTSchnitzel 10y ago
      Custom batteries mean you can make optimal use of space within the device (i.e. pack in more battery life in a smaller form factor).
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- skrowl 10y ago
  My guess is that it's some other manufacturing defect and they were just in such a hurry to say "Yay we fixed it!" that they completely overlooked it before they shipped the replacement devices. While the stories are all over the media, the truth is that there are less than 100 failures out of something like 3 million devices. I don't know about you guys, but if a bug only appears in my code in 0.003% of the time, I know I have a really hard time finding it.