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Are you sure of the worth of your idea ? And seriously, people are not out to get your idea. It's okay to post it here.

by vorador 17y ago

idea_explorer 17y ago
I was not posting this to have this community evaluating it but to get advise about how to move forward.
- vorador 17y ago
  But it's hard to give you valuable advice without details about what you want to build. > It is not just a service, neither application, nor innovative hardware device, it is all three and more. When accompanied by and development platform and strong contracts with major market players this can easily reach the scale of an iPad market and buzz. Seriously! Phrases like this make me think you're deluding yourself. It's always good thing to get a reality check before investing too much in an idea.
- kls 17y ago
  Here is the deal though, we have no idea of what you are trying to do so it is impossible to give you any sound advice. The only advice we can give you at this point is ideas are a dime a dozen (I have 2 or 3 a day) execution is everything. I have been involved in 3 start-up companies that have successfully exited for huge deals the common ingredient in all of them was execution not the idea. So to be as up front as I can, without being forthcoming you come of as an amateur and someone who is not experiences in this market, that will reflect poorly on your efforts in seeking capital. As good as your idea is, the guy down the street has one just as good; different but just as good. Seriously if it is that wizz-bang and revolutionary then get a patent-pending and tell the world. That would be your best first step for a few grand you can get a patent attorney to put it together for you and then generate some buzz with press releases about your patent.
joe_the_user 17y ago
Yes, Idea is 1%, execution is 99%. Moreover, ideas can not be patented. I consider that current laws are far too strong. But even current laws do not allow ideas to be patented, only a particular method of executing an idea. So as soon you begin doing business, your idea will there for everyone to see and steal. But also: unless the people around you are hardened venture capitalists willing to also put effort into thinking through the implications of your idea, the assurances of people around aren't that valuable. Steve Job's market research method is instinct but the question is whether you are Steve Jobs. Still, the people around may be willing to think a bit about your but they going to think and re-think and consider market conditions and so-forth. You, yourself, can put in more effort than anyone else. You can get yourself to succeed with that if you continually force yourself to be critical. I remember a discussion of Mark Zuckerberg's ability to continually criticize and discard ideas that didn't seem to work, including ideas he thought of the day before. The number one mistake of failed-novelists and fail capitalists is falling in love with an idea. A startup is a business. Most if not all businesses succeed by sliding from one niche to another until they gain real traction. It's a process of chaotic self-renewal where good ideas only play a small part. Google might seem a counter-example but remember, Google is continually re-inventing their search process. If Google really stuck to the one idea of Pagerank, they would be killed by now. And after all that, think about how worthwhile it is to pursue an idea on the scale you're talking about. I myself am pursuing an ambitious app at the moment but I'm not kidding myself that my approach is the best business plan. I'm pursuing it for reasoning of idealism. By all means, if the larger-scale idea you're pursuing is something you simply think should exist, then go for it. If you put enough energy and commitment into it and it really is a great idea, then it will come into existence. But don't kid yourself that this is best way to run a business.
- idea_explorer 17y ago
  > By all means, if the larger-scale idea you're pursuing is something you simply think should exist, then go for it. If you put enough energy and commitment into it and it really is a great idea, then it will come into existence. I think that is describing exactly how I feel toward this. It is indeed something that must exist, and I am going to put together the money and people that will make it happen. I only fear about taking control of areas and domains where I should let other control and vice versa.
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Are you sure of the worth of your idea ? And seriously, people are not out to get your idea. It's okay to post it here.

by vorador 17y ago

Are you sure of the worth of your idea ? And seriously, people are not out to get your idea. It's okay to post it here.

idea_explorer 17y ago

I was not posting this to have this community evaluating it but to get advise about how to move forward.

vorador 17y ago
But it's hard to give you valuable advice without details about what you want to build. > It is not just a service, neither application, nor innovative hardware device, it is all three and more. When accompanied by and development platform and strong contracts with major market players this can easily reach the scale of an iPad market and buzz. Seriously! Phrases like this make me think you're deluding yourself. It's always good thing to get a reality check before investing too much in an idea.
kls 17y ago
Here is the deal though, we have no idea of what you are trying to do so it is impossible to give you any sound advice. The only advice we can give you at this point is ideas are a dime a dozen (I have 2 or 3 a day) execution is everything. I have been involved in 3 start-up companies that have successfully exited for huge deals the common ingredient in all of them was execution not the idea. So to be as up front as I can, without being forthcoming you come of as an amateur and someone who is not experiences in this market, that will reflect poorly on your efforts in seeking capital. As good as your idea is, the guy down the street has one just as good; different but just as good. Seriously if it is that wizz-bang and revolutionary then get a patent-pending and tell the world. That would be your best first step for a few grand you can get a patent attorney to put it together for you and then generate some buzz with press releases about your patent.

joe_the_user 17y ago

Yes, Idea is 1%, execution is 99%. Moreover, ideas can not be patented. I consider that current laws are far too strong. But even current laws do not allow ideas to be patented, only a particular method of executing an idea. So as soon you begin doing business, your idea will there for everyone to see and steal. But also: unless the people around you are hardened venture capitalists willing to also put effort into thinking through the implications of your idea, the assurances of people around aren't that valuable. Steve Job's market research method is instinct but the question is whether you are Steve Jobs. Still, the people around may be willing to think a bit about your but they going to think and re-think and consider market conditions and so-forth. You, yourself, can put in more effort than anyone else. You can get yourself to succeed with that if you continually force yourself to be critical. I remember a discussion of Mark Zuckerberg's ability to continually criticize and discard ideas that didn't seem to work, including ideas he thought of the day before. The number one mistake of failed-novelists and fail capitalists is falling in love with an idea. A startup is a business. Most if not all businesses succeed by sliding from one niche to another until they gain real traction. It's a process of chaotic self-renewal where good ideas only play a small part. Google might seem a counter-example but remember, Google is continually re-inventing their search process. If Google really stuck to the one idea of Pagerank, they would be killed by now. And after all that, think about how worthwhile it is to pursue an idea on the scale you're talking about. I myself am pursuing an ambitious app at the moment but I'm not kidding myself that my approach is the best business plan. I'm pursuing it for reasoning of idealism. By all means, if the larger-scale idea you're pursuing is something you simply think should exist, then go for it. If you put enough energy and commitment into it and it really is a great idea, then it will come into existence. But don't kid yourself that this is best way to run a business.

idea_explorer 17y ago
> By all means, if the larger-scale idea you're pursuing is something you simply think should exist, then go for it. If you put enough energy and commitment into it and it really is a great idea, then it will come into existence. I think that is describing exactly how I feel toward this. It is indeed something that must exist, and I am going to put together the money and people that will make it happen. I only fear about taking control of areas and domains where I should let other control and vice versa.

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