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Every time I read about expensive programs like these I think of what else that money could have been spent on that would prevent the need for populations to ri
by Dowwie 10y ago
Every time I read about expensive programs like these I think of what else that money could have been spent on that would prevent the need for populations to rise up against their governments.
- gus_massa 10y agoIt's the CIA, there is a high chance that they are spending more money to fuel the revolution.
- pmorici 10y agogotta have a way to measure your ROI.
- analog31 10y agoWell, that's one way of knowing when uprisings will happen. Deming wrote that if you have a policy of rewarding people for fighting fires, you also need to watch who is setting those fires.
- Intermernet 10y agoYou can also get some good stats by lighting some random fires yourself and record who comes in to either put them out, or fan the flames.
- maccard 10y agoThe cobra effect is a great example of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect
- gscott 10y agoThe State Department especially are training foreign activists the CIA needs to look no further then there for 80% of where the unrest is fostered from.
- microcolonel 10y agoNot to put your statement down, but this probably cost a lot less than that.
- briandear 10y agoSo who gets that money? You support democracy in China and the Communists start an uprising. You support Communists and the other side starts an uprising; someone is always pissed off -- it isn't "government" vs. "the people." It's vastly more complex. Rarely are there two sides -- more like 200. Intelligence is a wilderness of mirrors as James Angleton had said. You could say "end the CIA" but that's sticking one's head in the sand -- as long as there are people, there are going to be bad people and groups. Obviously the determination of what is 'bad' isn't so simple. This is a complex issue and redistributing money doesn't solve it.
- wooter 10y agoClaiming everything is morally ambiguous and thus we need the CIA, which has real examples of unambiguous harm, seems more like sticking one's head in the sand to me.
- jryle70 10y agoThis is not a moral issue, ambiguous or not. CIA and its counterparts elsewhere will be here as long as there are nations. Event if every countries were on friendly terms, which won't happen, there would still be conflicts of interest, and hence the desire to gain the upper hand via intelligence.
- ivm 10y agoDowwie didn't say anything about "redistributing money". > as long as there are people, there are going to be bad people and groups Proper education reduces the numbers of "bad" people.
- zajd 10y ago> This is a complex issue and redistributing money doesn't solve it. Strangely enough, this seems to be the point of view of all the people who have the money. Funny how that works.
- benevol 10y agoUprisings are nothing but a reaction to an unhealthy situation. Terrorism boils down to that same problem. Yet, we never seem to be too interested in understanding and resolving the issues we have created which led to these reactions.
- jorblumesea 10y agoWhich do you think guarantees an intelligence agency more funding? My feeling is that there is some conflict of interest here when it comes to fixing societies' woes and people who manufacture tear gas and drones. A lot of money to be made in keeping the status quo, what do you get from fixing the world?
- benevol 10y ago> what do you get from fixing the world? An abundance of profound happiness which, for now, unfortunately remains too invisible for too many people. But I have a feeling that this is about to begin to change now.
- tdkl 10y agoNothing new here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket But go and download that new social app, citizen. It has new stickers.