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I wonder if Apple knows how many developers use Dash. They probably don't realize what a high-profile faux pas they're making.

stuaxo 10y ago
This is the first time I've heard of this (not a mac user but am a developer). At least as this is software for developers, I reckon most won't mind buying it outside the appstore, it sounds really useful.
- RBerenguel 10y ago
  I used to have Dash when it was still free and in beta, but had some use hiccups (was on an older machine) and recently considered getting a license for it and getting the iOS versions as well... So now I have a problem, because my main point was not the Mac version (I could even use the emacs compatible package to browse Dash documentation) but iOS, and that can't be maintained.
- kstrauser 10y ago
  A plug for it: I love Dash. I was on the fence for a while ("I'm not more than a terminal window away from 'man foo'; why pay for it?") but now I love having a common interface to lots of the docs I use. It also integrates nicely with common editors, so a single key combo in Emacs pops open a Dash window for the thing I was looking at. Yeah, I know Emacs has that built-in, but Dash in a separate window on a separate screen is still more pleasant to use and look at.
- chillacy 10y ago
  It's a lifesaver on planes where you won't have internet. If only I could download an archive of stackoverflow too, then I'd be set.
  - ChickeNES 10y ago
    Dash already includes the ability to download offline Stackoverflow datasets by language.
  - prashnts 10y ago
    I use `devdocs.io`. It's open source and works great!
    - tedmiston 10y ago
      First time seeing this site... DevDocs is nice!
    - overcast 10y ago
      Oh my...
    - timdeneau 10y ago
      Wow, thanks for sharing.
    - CamperBob2 10y ago
      Thanks, this is pretty slick.
  - evolve2k 10y ago
    It's wonderful at Railscamps also! http://railscamps.org http://railscamps.org
- Tyr42 10y ago
  It is helpful when the Python doc's search sucks. Also I keep a copy of all the documentation offline, which is good when I don't always have WiFi
- RantyDave 10y ago
  It's great, works a treat with PyCharm. I like to think this is a foulup and will be fixed soon. However, XCode 8's help system is massively improved and this might be a case of Apple trying to force developers down that route. Which is a bloody shame. I really hope this is just some screwup :(
  - apetresc 10y ago
    I'm certain a fake fraud tag is not the way Apple would go about this.
- abeyer 10y ago
  If you're not on mac, there's Zeal[1], that shows Dash doc sets on win & linux. [1] https://zealdocs.org https://zealdocs.org
  - LaSombra 10y ago
    Even if you are, https://github.com/zealdocs/zeal/wiki/Build-Instructions-for-OS-X https://github.com/zealdocs/zeal/wiki/Build-Instructions-for.... It works quite well for me.
mahyarm 10y ago
iOS devs have stolkholm syndrome. We deal with all sorts of crap from apple. Like code signing. Or the encrypt-then-compress DRM adding many MB to binary sizes. Or code signing causing pre-main startup times to bloat. Etc, etc.
coldcode 10y ago
In any large organization there are islands of mass stupidity. Apple is no different. I bet this ends with a mea culpa caused by the 1000 people at Apple who use the product who are now pissed. Note the review team operates in an airless void separate from the rest of the company on purpose; however those 1000 know where they sit.
- fred256 10y ago
  It doesn't look like this was caused by the app review team, the whole developer account was canceled due to fraud reasons, which doesn't sound like something the app review team would be responsible for. But the rest of your comment stands.
pjlegato 10y ago
More likely they simply don't care. Developers are a tiny fraction of their overall userbase, and there are plenty of devs who will put up with any kind of abuse just to have a shot at App Store riches.
fbnlsr 10y ago
I'm a developer and I don't use Dash. I wonder how much I miss.
skc 10y ago
High profile what? Developers will continue using and supporting Apple products regardless. We hear a story like this at least three or four times a year. Geeks love their Apple products far too much to ever walk away no matter what Apple does.

stuaxo 10y ago

This is the first time I've heard of this (not a mac user but am a developer). At least as this is software for developers, I reckon most won't mind buying it outside the appstore, it sounds really useful.

RBerenguel 10y ago
I used to have Dash when it was still free and in beta, but had some use hiccups (was on an older machine) and recently considered getting a license for it and getting the iOS versions as well... So now I have a problem, because my main point was not the Mac version (I could even use the emacs compatible package to browse Dash documentation) but iOS, and that can't be maintained.
kstrauser 10y ago
A plug for it: I love Dash. I was on the fence for a while ("I'm not more than a terminal window away from 'man foo'; why pay for it?") but now I love having a common interface to lots of the docs I use. It also integrates nicely with common editors, so a single key combo in Emacs pops open a Dash window for the thing I was looking at. Yeah, I know Emacs has that built-in, but Dash in a separate window on a separate screen is still more pleasant to use and look at.
chillacy 10y ago
It's a lifesaver on planes where you won't have internet. If only I could download an archive of stackoverflow too, then I'd be set.
- ChickeNES 10y ago
  Dash already includes the ability to download offline Stackoverflow datasets by language.
- prashnts 10y ago
  I use `devdocs.io`. It's open source and works great!
  - tedmiston 10y ago
    First time seeing this site... DevDocs is nice!
  - overcast 10y ago
    Oh my...
  - timdeneau 10y ago
    Wow, thanks for sharing.
  - CamperBob2 10y ago
    Thanks, this is pretty slick.
- evolve2k 10y ago
  It's wonderful at Railscamps also! http://railscamps.org http://railscamps.org
Tyr42 10y ago
It is helpful when the Python doc's search sucks. Also I keep a copy of all the documentation offline, which is good when I don't always have WiFi
RantyDave 10y ago
It's great, works a treat with PyCharm. I like to think this is a foulup and will be fixed soon. However, XCode 8's help system is massively improved and this might be a case of Apple trying to force developers down that route. Which is a bloody shame. I really hope this is just some screwup :(
- apetresc 10y ago
  I'm certain a fake fraud tag is not the way Apple would go about this.
abeyer 10y ago
If you're not on mac, there's Zeal[1], that shows Dash doc sets on win & linux. [1] https://zealdocs.org https://zealdocs.org
- LaSombra 10y ago
  Even if you are, https://github.com/zealdocs/zeal/wiki/Build-Instructions-for-OS-X https://github.com/zealdocs/zeal/wiki/Build-Instructions-for.... It works quite well for me.

mahyarm 10y ago

iOS devs have stolkholm syndrome. We deal with all sorts of crap from apple. Like code signing. Or the encrypt-then-compress DRM adding many MB to binary sizes. Or code signing causing pre-main startup times to bloat. Etc, etc.

coldcode 10y ago

In any large organization there are islands of mass stupidity. Apple is no different. I bet this ends with a mea culpa caused by the 1000 people at Apple who use the product who are now pissed. Note the review team operates in an airless void separate from the rest of the company on purpose; however those 1000 know where they sit.

fred256 10y ago
It doesn't look like this was caused by the app review team, the whole developer account was canceled due to fraud reasons, which doesn't sound like something the app review team would be responsible for. But the rest of your comment stands.

pjlegato 10y ago

More likely they simply don't care. Developers are a tiny fraction of their overall userbase, and there are plenty of devs who will put up with any kind of abuse just to have a shot at App Store riches.

fbnlsr 10y ago

I'm a developer and I don't use Dash. I wonder how much I miss.

skc 10y ago

High profile what? Developers will continue using and supporting Apple products regardless. We hear a story like this at least three or four times a year. Geeks love their Apple products far too much to ever walk away no matter what Apple does.