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Will this phone be discontinued and unsupported after two years like other Google phones though? I've owned a Nexus 4, a Nexus 5 and now a 5X, I think they're v
by VeejayRampay 10y ago
Will this phone be discontinued and unsupported after two years like other Google phones though? I've owned a Nexus 4, a Nexus 5 and now a 5X, I think they're very good phones, but the fact that the Nexus 5 I bought 2 years ago won't ever see the light of Nougat is extremely annoying. I wish Google at least pretended to care about their older lines of phones (which are not cheap phones either, the Nexus 5 cost me about 500 euros when I bought it).
- nkozyra 10y agoWhile I can't speak to their cycles, is it really fair to call the Nexus line 'Google phones?' It seems possible they'd be more likely to extend support lifetime to this rather than branded partner phones.
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- jhasse 10y agoI would rather worry about the non-replaceable battery and the missing microSD card slot. You can upgrade a 3.5 year old Galaxy S4 to over 128 GB storage (~35 € for a microSD card) and a fresh battery (~10 € for a new one). And with custom ROMs you can also run Nougat (I'm personally still running Marshmallow on mine though).
- heywire 10y agoUnfortunately there are some models of the S4 which cannot run a custom rom (AT&T model, for example).
- jhasse 10y agoThis one? http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=jflteatt http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=jflteatt Luckily I'm from Germany and we have the international version (with a Qualcomm SoC). But it's true that you have to be careful which phone you buy if you want to run a custom ROM. For example there are several "Value Editions" of Samsung's phones which can't be rooted.
- heywire 10y agoYes, that's the one. Unfortunately around the time of the introduction of the Android 5 update on that handset, they also locked down the bootloader. As far as I'm aware (and a quick search of the XDA forums), it seems that it will probably never be unlocked. Such a shame because it is a great phone being left behind.
- jhasse 10y agoAh I see :/ Btw: You can officially unlock the bootloader of some of LG's phones, see http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryTypeCode=ANRS http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader....
- voltagex_ 10y agoIt worries me that the unlocking of many phones relies on manufacturer websites that might not be there one day. Hell, even the Xiaomi Mi4c required unlocking with "identity verification" via SMS.
- matwood 10y ago> I would rather worry about the non-replaceable battery and the missing microSD card slot. You're one of the last few remaining ;)
- tboughen 10y agoPeople are still impressed with the hardware of my 10 month old Lumia 950xl. Removable battery, microSD card slot, physical camera button and top notch camera. They are so useful, my next phone will have all these features too.
- tdkl 10y agoYes, 2 years of upgrades and another for security updates.
- kyrra 10y agoThey clearly outline the update lifetime in the operating system section of the store: https://store.google.com/product/pixel_phone https://store.google.com/product/pixel_phone "Android 7.1 Nougat, the latest Android OS 2 years of OS updates 3 years of security updates"
- hedora 10y agoThanks for this! At least they are being more transparent than in the past. By my calculations, Apple is doubling this (based on iPhone 5, and OS updates, not security updates). I think in $/month for disposable hardware like phones. Plus, Apple's model is to charge for software development, while Google subsidizes it with ads/surveillance/platform lock-in. I'm happy to (and did, with the iPhone 6) pay 2x to opt-out of the OS-level surveillance. So, for me, this phone is 4x more expensive than an iPhone. That takes real "courage". Of course, most people don't think like me, so they'll probably sell lots of these.
- Klathmon 10y agoThis has been the policy since the Nexus 4.
- Chronic9q 10y agoSo Nexus phones have been 4x more expensive since Nexus 4.
- Klathmon 10y agoWell the Nexus 4 started at $299 at launch, and the Nexus 5 and 5X at $349, so that changes things a bit. I do think that Google's support lifetime of these phones is atrocious, my comment was in reference to the "At least they are being more transparent than in the past."
- hedora 10y agoYeah; I worded that poorly. I should have said: If they want me back as a customer, they need to add a "turn off all telemetry" button (just like Microsoft needs one), and they'd need to double the support lifetime or half the price of this phone to be inline with Apple. I've noticed Apple tended to command a ~2x price premium on Android, even when their phones had shorter support periods. I personally am willing to pay that premium for privacy/security, but not the camera or apps / os features, which are largely comparable between the two platforms.
- kissickas 10y agoThe Nexus 5 was released October 31, 2013, making it almost three years old (at least it's three generations old - after 5 came 6, then 5x and 6p - now the Pixel its de facto successor).
- dfrey 10y agoWhat is more relevant than when it was released is when it was last sold as a new device through official channels. If a phone is for sale though a legitimate distributor, then I think it's reasonable to expect security updates for 3 years after that point.