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You probably mean Urs Hölzle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urs_H%C3%B6lzle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urs_H%C3%B6lzle ps: expats usually remain expats alm

You probably mean Urs Hölzle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urs_H%C3%B6lzle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urs_H%C3%B6lzle ps: expats usually remain expats almost everywhere (as they tend to stick together), what's so inflexible about .ch in particular?

eternalban 10y ago
> what's so inflexible about .ch in particular? Well, I remember when arriving for work in Geneva a few years ago, a French colleague informed me (quite seriously :) that one can not urinate in the street. The American colleague mentioned "oh, and quiet hours after 10 pm". And you are not supposed to hunt the swans swimming in the lake. (& My youngish Swiss friends all complain about how "boring" it is.) I think Switzerland is one of those love it or hate it things. I loved it.
- DougN7 10y ago
  Man, you're doing such a good job at dead pan I just can't decide if you're joking or not :)
- mweibel 10y ago
  > that one can not urinate in the street never heard of such a law. If anything there's maybe one in certain cities. I know this is just an example, but I wonder why you'd bring this example up as an example about inflexibility? > oh, and quiet hours after 10 pm yep, that's fact. > And you are not supposed to hunt the swans swimming in the lake. Again, why would you bring that up as an example? I'm not sure whether you're joking or not. I'm Swiss and indeed some things are quite different than in other countries, what you posted as an example I don't consider relevant at all. What my non-swiss friends complain about, is usually how hard it is to get to know Swiss people well. Swiss take a long time to call someone a friend.
  - uola 10y ago
    Yeah, those are weird examples. I was more thinking of that it's small (even for it's size), bureaucratic (while fairly efficient) and expensive. It's not the place where one shows up and figure out what to do. It's where you work for a large business, live slightly outside of town and sign long contracts.
jamespo 10y ago
From an acquaintance who lived there, it's a bit of a nanny state, neighbours will complain about anything. She was walking home one day and saw a couple watching television in the house wearing headphones, presumably so as not to disturb / annoy the neighbours!
- alicewales 10y ago
  I do that after a certain time at night and I live in the UK. I'd be mortified if I thought I was causing a noise to my neighbours and I'd hate it if they did it to me. It's more a case of treat others how you want to be treated - I hate being on the receiving end of neighbour noise so I take care not to be the cause of it myself.

eternalban 10y ago

> what's so inflexible about .ch in particular? Well, I remember when arriving for work in Geneva a few years ago, a French colleague informed me (quite seriously :) that one can not urinate in the street. The American colleague mentioned "oh, and quiet hours after 10 pm". And you are not supposed to hunt the swans swimming in the lake. (& My youngish Swiss friends all complain about how "boring" it is.) I think Switzerland is one of those love it or hate it things. I loved it.

DougN7 10y ago
Man, you're doing such a good job at dead pan I just can't decide if you're joking or not :)
mweibel 10y ago
> that one can not urinate in the street never heard of such a law. If anything there's maybe one in certain cities. I know this is just an example, but I wonder why you'd bring this example up as an example about inflexibility? > oh, and quiet hours after 10 pm yep, that's fact. > And you are not supposed to hunt the swans swimming in the lake. Again, why would you bring that up as an example? I'm not sure whether you're joking or not. I'm Swiss and indeed some things are quite different than in other countries, what you posted as an example I don't consider relevant at all. What my non-swiss friends complain about, is usually how hard it is to get to know Swiss people well. Swiss take a long time to call someone a friend.
- uola 10y ago
  Yeah, those are weird examples. I was more thinking of that it's small (even for it's size), bureaucratic (while fairly efficient) and expensive. It's not the place where one shows up and figure out what to do. It's where you work for a large business, live slightly outside of town and sign long contracts.

jamespo 10y ago

From an acquaintance who lived there, it's a bit of a nanny state, neighbours will complain about anything. She was walking home one day and saw a couple watching television in the house wearing headphones, presumably so as not to disturb / annoy the neighbours!

alicewales 10y ago
I do that after a certain time at night and I live in the UK. I'd be mortified if I thought I was causing a noise to my neighbours and I'd hate it if they did it to me. It's more a case of treat others how you want to be treated - I hate being on the receiving end of neighbour noise so I take care not to be the cause of it myself.