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> No matter what choices we make there will be upset people. Sure, I have no idea what you have to deal with on a daily basis and in the end the content is mos

by dandare 10y ago

> No matter what choices we make there will be upset people. Sure, I have no idea what you have to deal with on a daily basis and in the end the content is mostly helpful so you are probably doing it right. But in more than few occasions I have been treated like a dirty beggar/shoplifter/moron/(you name it) for actually asking a question (or answering one)! Yes I need you and yes I owe you a lot - but I don't like you. And I won't root for you when you will be an underdog and when there will be equal alternative I will switch and never look back.

EpicEng 10y ago
And I'm sure you'll have the same experience elsewhere. Once a site like SO gets large enough to be really useful to a lot of people you're going to also have to deal with an influx of the type of users you don't like. I don't know how you solve that problem.
- dandare 10y ago
  It has nothing to do with size. The TSA staff in the post communist country where I come from are jerks and they roll their eyes every time someone makes a mistake. But TSA staff at most large international airports is trained to understand that people will make mistakes no matter what and that their role is not to move trays but to help people. SO simply never prioritised helping people over providing them with correct technical answers so it is only natural that some of the mods beehive like knowitall-bully-jerks.
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- marcosdumay 10y ago
  > I don't know how you solve that problem. Not replacing it with a single site, with a single community and centralized moderation can help a lot.
  - EpicEng 10y ago
    But you can't control that, it could only happen organically, and, well, it hasn't.
- david-given 10y ago
  One of the problems with SO, though is that frequently, once you get one ranty idiot tearing a hole into you for being so stupid as to ask a question they have personal problems with, you're stuffed. Because once it receives one downvote, you'll get pile-on downvotes, particularly if it's an entertainingly abusive rant; which means that nobody will ever see it again. And you can't change the wording and repost, because you know that there will be people who will notice that it's a repost, and then it gets even worse. You will never get help with that question, because of one ranty idiot. And if you try to complain, the official response from the moderators is to suck it up and deal [paraphrased slightly]. Not that I'm bitter, or anything.
- PretzelFisch 10y ago
  Not if you have to pay for an account and you put your real identity behind your questions and answers.
  - EpicEng 10y ago
    Good luck getting a large number of users to hop on that bandwagon.

by dandare 10y ago

EpicEng 10y ago

And I'm sure you'll have the same experience elsewhere. Once a site like SO gets large enough to be really useful to a lot of people you're going to also have to deal with an influx of the type of users you don't like. I don't know how you solve that problem.

dandare 10y ago
It has nothing to do with size. The TSA staff in the post communist country where I come from are jerks and they roll their eyes every time someone makes a mistake. But TSA staff at most large international airports is trained to understand that people will make mistakes no matter what and that their role is not to move trays but to help people. SO simply never prioritised helping people over providing them with correct technical answers so it is only natural that some of the mods beehive like knowitall-bully-jerks.
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marcosdumay 10y ago
> I don't know how you solve that problem. Not replacing it with a single site, with a single community and centralized moderation can help a lot.
- EpicEng 10y ago
  But you can't control that, it could only happen organically, and, well, it hasn't.
david-given 10y ago
One of the problems with SO, though is that frequently, once you get one ranty idiot tearing a hole into you for being so stupid as to ask a question they have personal problems with, you're stuffed. Because once it receives one downvote, you'll get pile-on downvotes, particularly if it's an entertainingly abusive rant; which means that nobody will ever see it again. And you can't change the wording and repost, because you know that there will be people who will notice that it's a repost, and then it gets even worse. You will never get help with that question, because of one ranty idiot. And if you try to complain, the official response from the moderators is to suck it up and deal [paraphrased slightly]. Not that I'm bitter, or anything.
PretzelFisch 10y ago
Not if you have to pay for an account and you put your real identity behind your questions and answers.
- EpicEng 10y ago
  Good luck getting a large number of users to hop on that bandwagon.