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There are better alternatives to Twitter out there. It’s time for everybody to move on.

by lcnmrn 10y ago

mikeycgto 10y ago
Such as?
- wanda 10y ago
  Parent post's product, Sublevel, would make for a nice public communication utility. Unfortunately, while I like it, it's definitely not going in the same direction as Twitter and is not likely to match everybody's idea of a social network. While its current members, myself included, like it for its simplicity and lack of embellishment, it is precisely because it comes with fewer features and deliberate design choices against janky embedded media, it does not and likely will not represent a Twitter alternative for the vast majority of Twitter users. Sublevel could however be made into an interesting, social-first alternative to Pinboard. If Sublevel were for sale, that's likely what I'd do with it, offering an archive utility to save HTML where duplicate content is only saved once and blindly shared among users to conserve space. Then stick an incrementally increasing price tag on membership like Pinboard. Maybe membership tiers. I remember as well numerous decentralised alternatives to Twitter like Diaspora and Twister IIRC. Twitter is horrible to use and would benefit from a complete rethink in terms of UI, maybe something along the lines of Opera Coast.
- daveid 10y ago
  GNU social [1], Mastodon* [2] There is a set of standartized web protocols called Webfinger, ActivityStreams, Salmon and PubSubHubbub which allow websites to interact with each other as a sort of decentralized/federated Twitter (this is called the "fediverse"). [1]: https://gnu.io/social https://gnu.io/social [2]: https://github.com/Gargron/mastodon https://github.com/Gargron/mastodon Disclaimer: I'm working on Mastodon, it's a new open source implementation, I'm trying to make it more approachable to people who value UX and maintainability
  - nenadg 10y ago
    Nice thing this mastodon.social, how do I reach out to people/interests ?
    - daveid 10y ago
      Short answer: The sidebar has a form at the bottom where you can enter a username@domain to follow them. For that method, you have to know the user in advance, realistically atm you can browse the public timelines on quitter.se and quitter.no etc to see who interests you (or ask friends who're using the network, etc). I'm going to eventually implement a "who to follow" suggestions section to make this process smoother. Mentioning people in statuses works the same as in Twitter, except if it's a user on the same domain as you (e.g. mastodon.social) you can enter their @username, but if they are somewhere else, you enter @username@domain. If you are replying to a status on your timeline, the mentions are pre-filled like you would expect from e.g. TweetDeck to save you the typing. Edit: You can follow me as Gargron@mastodon.social
- berns 10y ago
  Telegram channels https://telegram.org/faq_channels https://telegram.org/faq_channels
- gjolund 10y ago
  Not using Twitter.
MollyR 10y ago
I think Gab.ai is competitor, thats gaining popularity.
- RileyKyeden 10y ago
  It has the same issue Voat does: the people I want to avoid went there.
  - MollyR 10y ago
    Isn't that a good thing though ? More choices, more people will self segregate out.
    - RileyKyeden 10y ago
      The people I tend to agree with are just as prone to group think as conservative-leaning people. Hate grows in the absence of disagreement, and it doesn't stop at the echo chamber's walls.
      - MollyR 10y ago
        So what do you actually want from a community then ? It seems like you don't want certain people in it, but at the same time you do want them in it. I'm not sure if I'm understanding it correctly.
        deleted 10y ago
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        Mystrl 10y ago
        I'm assuming he doesn't want a community with only people he doesn't like nor a community with only people he likes. So he wouldn't move to a service where all the people he dislikes moved.
- CM30 10y ago
  I've heard GNU Social is doing quite well at the moment too. Probably cause quite a few internet communities have been encouraging people to use GNU Social instances instead of Twitter.

There are better alternatives to Twitter out there. It’s time for everybody to move on.

by lcnmrn 10y ago

There are better alternatives to Twitter out there. It’s time for everybody to move on.

mikeycgto 10y ago

Such as?

wanda 10y ago
Parent post's product, Sublevel, would make for a nice public communication utility. Unfortunately, while I like it, it's definitely not going in the same direction as Twitter and is not likely to match everybody's idea of a social network. While its current members, myself included, like it for its simplicity and lack of embellishment, it is precisely because it comes with fewer features and deliberate design choices against janky embedded media, it does not and likely will not represent a Twitter alternative for the vast majority of Twitter users. Sublevel could however be made into an interesting, social-first alternative to Pinboard. If Sublevel were for sale, that's likely what I'd do with it, offering an archive utility to save HTML where duplicate content is only saved once and blindly shared among users to conserve space. Then stick an incrementally increasing price tag on membership like Pinboard. Maybe membership tiers. I remember as well numerous decentralised alternatives to Twitter like Diaspora and Twister IIRC. Twitter is horrible to use and would benefit from a complete rethink in terms of UI, maybe something along the lines of Opera Coast.
daveid 10y ago
GNU social [1], Mastodon* [2] There is a set of standartized web protocols called Webfinger, ActivityStreams, Salmon and PubSubHubbub which allow websites to interact with each other as a sort of decentralized/federated Twitter (this is called the "fediverse"). [1]: https://gnu.io/social https://gnu.io/social [2]: https://github.com/Gargron/mastodon https://github.com/Gargron/mastodon Disclaimer: I'm working on Mastodon, it's a new open source implementation, I'm trying to make it more approachable to people who value UX and maintainability
- nenadg 10y ago
  Nice thing this mastodon.social, how do I reach out to people/interests ?
  - daveid 10y ago
    Short answer: The sidebar has a form at the bottom where you can enter a username@domain to follow them. For that method, you have to know the user in advance, realistically atm you can browse the public timelines on quitter.se and quitter.no etc to see who interests you (or ask friends who're using the network, etc). I'm going to eventually implement a "who to follow" suggestions section to make this process smoother. Mentioning people in statuses works the same as in Twitter, except if it's a user on the same domain as you (e.g. mastodon.social) you can enter their @username, but if they are somewhere else, you enter @username@domain. If you are replying to a status on your timeline, the mentions are pre-filled like you would expect from e.g. TweetDeck to save you the typing. Edit: You can follow me as Gargron@mastodon.social
berns 10y ago
Telegram channels https://telegram.org/faq_channels https://telegram.org/faq_channels
gjolund 10y ago
Not using Twitter.

MollyR 10y ago

I think Gab.ai is competitor, thats gaining popularity.

RileyKyeden 10y ago
It has the same issue Voat does: the people I want to avoid went there.
- MollyR 10y ago
  Isn't that a good thing though ? More choices, more people will self segregate out.
  - RileyKyeden 10y ago
    The people I tend to agree with are just as prone to group think as conservative-leaning people. Hate grows in the absence of disagreement, and it doesn't stop at the echo chamber's walls.
    - MollyR 10y ago
      So what do you actually want from a community then ? It seems like you don't want certain people in it, but at the same time you do want them in it. I'm not sure if I'm understanding it correctly.
      - deleted 10y ago
        [deleted]
      - Mystrl 10y ago
        I'm assuming he doesn't want a community with only people he doesn't like nor a community with only people he likes. So he wouldn't move to a service where all the people he dislikes moved.
CM30 10y ago
I've heard GNU Social is doing quite well at the moment too. Probably cause quite a few internet communities have been encouraging people to use GNU Social instances instead of Twitter.