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> quality of impressions their ads received I don't disagree, but FWIW the ads still had better ROI than Facebook's competitors, so the oversight (while embarr

> quality of impressions their ads received I don't disagree, but FWIW the ads still had better ROI than Facebook's competitors, so the oversight (while embarrassing) may not have actually changed the willingness of ad buyers to pay for ads.

harry8 10y ago
Better ROI than competitors. Did facebook tell you that?
- cm2012 10y ago
  Any modern advertiser knows their ROI from different channels. As a big FB spender, this doesn't effect us at all.
  - languagewars 10y ago
    FB has more information about other channels than you do, I.e. for all you know they have algorithms favoring users to see FB ads that are on path that usually leads to your site based on FB pixel tracking. Then all the multi-attribution ROI of FB is nonsenses but you have no idea. I'm not saying they are doing that, I am saying be especially careful with anyone in advertising who is misleading and who doesn't try to protect their reputation by being exact in what they say.
    - madeofpalk 10y ago
      Regardless, dollar for dollar, if people are seeing bigger conversions or returns it doesn't matter whether they came from display advertising or 'organic content'. If they buy something, who cares?
      - harry8 10y ago
        If you have independent metrics of your own spend, then no, facebook didn't tell you. But you'd have had to have had similar spends in similar ways with all their competitors to know that.
      - languagewars 10y ago
        If someone is intentionally adding correlations using predictive information then they are stealing money you did not have to spend on traffic that was inevitable. It is like standing inside your waiting room to hand out your buisiness cards then claiming the sales commission.
notyourwork 10y ago
Speculation on alternatives won't have a bearing on an investigation into the legitimacy of their claims.
ethanbond 10y ago
Comments like these should have disclaimers about the author's position on the stock.

harry8 10y ago

Better ROI than competitors. Did facebook tell you that?

cm2012 10y ago
Any modern advertiser knows their ROI from different channels. As a big FB spender, this doesn't effect us at all.
- languagewars 10y ago
  FB has more information about other channels than you do, I.e. for all you know they have algorithms favoring users to see FB ads that are on path that usually leads to your site based on FB pixel tracking. Then all the multi-attribution ROI of FB is nonsenses but you have no idea. I'm not saying they are doing that, I am saying be especially careful with anyone in advertising who is misleading and who doesn't try to protect their reputation by being exact in what they say.
  - madeofpalk 10y ago
    Regardless, dollar for dollar, if people are seeing bigger conversions or returns it doesn't matter whether they came from display advertising or 'organic content'. If they buy something, who cares?
    - harry8 10y ago
      If you have independent metrics of your own spend, then no, facebook didn't tell you. But you'd have had to have had similar spends in similar ways with all their competitors to know that.
    - languagewars 10y ago
      If someone is intentionally adding correlations using predictive information then they are stealing money you did not have to spend on traffic that was inevitable. It is like standing inside your waiting room to hand out your buisiness cards then claiming the sales commission.

notyourwork 10y ago

Speculation on alternatives won't have a bearing on an investigation into the legitimacy of their claims.

ethanbond 10y ago

Comments like these should have disclaimers about the author's position on the stock.