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Heads up for anyone using Karabiner to remap their keyboard-- it's not updated for Sierra yet. I figure that's a more popular app among HN crowd than most plac

by prh8 10y ago

Heads up for anyone using Karabiner to remap their keyboard-- it's not updated for Sierra yet. I figure that's a more popular app among HN crowd than most places, and losing it is really painful.

easychris 10y ago
Oh, thanks. That saved me from a lot of trouble. :) This is the Github issue if anyone needs to subscribe to this issue: https://github.com/tekezo/Karabiner/issues/660 https://github.com/tekezo/Karabiner/issues/660 EDIT: I read the comments at above issue; the version for MacOS Sierra is being developed as "Karabiner-Elements" [1] And you can make a donation to the author here[2]. [1] https://github.com/tekezo/Karabiner-Elements https://github.com/tekezo/Karabiner-Elements [2] https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/donation.html.en https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/donation.html.en
- ctrlrsf 10y ago
  This README[1] has instructions for installing Karabiner-Elements and has a few examples for mapping some common keys such as caps-lock to escape: [1] https://github.com/tekezo/Karabiner-Elements/blob/master/usage/README.md https://github.com/tekezo/Karabiner-Elements/blob/master/usa...
  - hyh1048576 10y ago
    Does that mean Karabiner and Seil are now combined? I mapped my Caps Lock to escape, but I just realized that it's not by Karabiner, and I need Seil from the same author to do it.
ralfd 10y ago
What can Karabiner do better than Ukelele? http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=ukelele http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=...
- prh8 10y ago
  It can do almost anything with the keyboard. I'd suggest just checking it out. A lot of people make changes to caps lock, shift key, left/right option/command, etc. I only do two things, setting fn to send hyper and swapping semicolon/colon. It's more about individual rules than a new keyboard layout (which is what Ukulele appeared to be in my 5 minutes with it). Maybe other people can chime in on their uses, since I'm not the best to fully answer your question.
  - izacus 10y ago
    It also has a lot of prebaked configurations in it. For example there's one that changes Slovenian Apple layout (which is pretty nonsensical with @ on 3rd level) to the standard layout used by PCs. That's hugely useful for people who use Mac Minis / iMacs with non-Apple keyboards (since Apple refuses to add the standard layout to OS X). With Karabiner that's an issue of a single tick.
- charlesism 10y ago
  Karabiner has support for most, if not all, keys on the keyboard. On a Mac, the Function keys aren't properly supported by the other key remapping apps. With Karabiner, I can use a PC keyboard to change screen brightness, volume, etc. I can also remap Fn+JKLI to the arrow keys, and much more.
- ivm 10y ago
  Seil does Caps Lock rebinding, I use it for keyboard layout switch.
- jamesgeck0 10y ago
  Sticky keys are the big one for me. I have Ctrl mapped to act as Ctrl when pressed at the same time as another key, or to act as Esc when pressed alone. It's not currently supported by Karabiner-Elements; I haven't found a way to do this on macOS Sierra yet.
  - kevinykchan 10y ago
scolson 10y ago
Hijacking this to point out about as comprehensive a list of software compatibility with Sierra as I have found: https://roaringapps.com/apps?platform=osx&os=sierra https://roaringapps.com/apps?platform=osx&os=sierra I have used it on past releases (El Cap, Yosemite, etc) and it has always been a great source for tracking the software I care about as a developer.
- MR-ROBOT 10y ago
  Thanks very much for the link. I'm in shock at how many applications that are incompatible. This is far from a upgrade, considering it's breaking nearly every essential application I use in my workflow. You would assume that backwards compatibility is Issue #1 in regards to operating system updates.
srgseg 10y ago
Any recommendations for a simple keyboard remapper that is compatible with Sierra? All I need is to swap the @ with "
- OJFord 10y ago
  Isn't one of Apple's UK mappings sufficient?
  - deleted 10y ago
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  - srgseg 10y ago
    Thanks for the tip - unfortunately that mapping changes too many other things on the keyboard at the same time.
- shabble 10y ago
  Not sure if it still works, but the ~/Library/KeyBindings/DefaultKeyBinding.dict approach maybe? I use it for putting # on the § key, and it's as simple as: { "\U00a7" = ( "insertText:", "#" ); } in that file. YMMV on >capitan though.
pkamb 10y ago
Sounds like it may take a while: > macOS 10.12 changes of the generic keyboard and mouse drivers made a great impact on Karabiner and Seil. > We should make a large changes in Karabiner and Seil architecture. > There is not a workaround for this issue. > Please wait an update of Karabiner and Seil for macOS 10.12. > (It may take a long time.)
OJFord 10y ago
Flycut clipboard history also broken. (Menubar icon flashes open then closes on click, rendering it unusable.)
sotojuan 10y ago
Phew, was going to lose my Caps Lock -> Ctrl + Escape binding. I downloaded the update, but will wait for Karabiner to support it.
HNSucksAss 10y ago
Because of Apple's idiotic failure to put real Delete keys on their laptops, the lack of Karabiner makes using them insufferable. WTF is wrong with Apple?

by prh8 10y ago

Heads up for anyone using Karabiner to remap their keyboard-- it's not updated for Sierra yet. I figure that's a more popular app among HN crowd than most places, and losing it is really painful.

easychris 10y ago

Oh, thanks. That saved me from a lot of trouble. :) This is the Github issue if anyone needs to subscribe to this issue: https://github.com/tekezo/Karabiner/issues/660 https://github.com/tekezo/Karabiner/issues/660 EDIT: I read the comments at above issue; the version for MacOS Sierra is being developed as "Karabiner-Elements" [1] And you can make a donation to the author here[2]. [1] https://github.com/tekezo/Karabiner-Elements https://github.com/tekezo/Karabiner-Elements [2] https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/donation.html.en https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/donation.html.en

ctrlrsf 10y ago
This README[1] has instructions for installing Karabiner-Elements and has a few examples for mapping some common keys such as caps-lock to escape: [1] https://github.com/tekezo/Karabiner-Elements/blob/master/usage/README.md https://github.com/tekezo/Karabiner-Elements/blob/master/usa...
- hyh1048576 10y ago
  Does that mean Karabiner and Seil are now combined? I mapped my Caps Lock to escape, but I just realized that it's not by Karabiner, and I need Seil from the same author to do it.

ralfd 10y ago

What can Karabiner do better than Ukelele? http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=ukelele http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=...

prh8 10y ago
It can do almost anything with the keyboard. I'd suggest just checking it out. A lot of people make changes to caps lock, shift key, left/right option/command, etc. I only do two things, setting fn to send hyper and swapping semicolon/colon. It's more about individual rules than a new keyboard layout (which is what Ukulele appeared to be in my 5 minutes with it). Maybe other people can chime in on their uses, since I'm not the best to fully answer your question.
- izacus 10y ago
  It also has a lot of prebaked configurations in it. For example there's one that changes Slovenian Apple layout (which is pretty nonsensical with @ on 3rd level) to the standard layout used by PCs. That's hugely useful for people who use Mac Minis / iMacs with non-Apple keyboards (since Apple refuses to add the standard layout to OS X). With Karabiner that's an issue of a single tick.
charlesism 10y ago
Karabiner has support for most, if not all, keys on the keyboard. On a Mac, the Function keys aren't properly supported by the other key remapping apps. With Karabiner, I can use a PC keyboard to change screen brightness, volume, etc. I can also remap Fn+JKLI to the arrow keys, and much more.
ivm 10y ago
Seil does Caps Lock rebinding, I use it for keyboard layout switch.
jamesgeck0 10y ago
Sticky keys are the big one for me. I have Ctrl mapped to act as Ctrl when pressed at the same time as another key, or to act as Esc when pressed alone. It's not currently supported by Karabiner-Elements; I haven't found a way to do this on macOS Sierra yet.
- kevinykchan 10y ago

scolson 10y ago

Hijacking this to point out about as comprehensive a list of software compatibility with Sierra as I have found: https://roaringapps.com/apps?platform=osx&os=sierra https://roaringapps.com/apps?platform=osx&os=sierra I have used it on past releases (El Cap, Yosemite, etc) and it has always been a great source for tracking the software I care about as a developer.

MR-ROBOT 10y ago
Thanks very much for the link. I'm in shock at how many applications that are incompatible. This is far from a upgrade, considering it's breaking nearly every essential application I use in my workflow. You would assume that backwards compatibility is Issue #1 in regards to operating system updates.

srgseg 10y ago

Any recommendations for a simple keyboard remapper that is compatible with Sierra? All I need is to swap the @ with "

OJFord 10y ago
Isn't one of Apple's UK mappings sufficient?
- deleted 10y ago
  [deleted]
- srgseg 10y ago
  Thanks for the tip - unfortunately that mapping changes too many other things on the keyboard at the same time.
shabble 10y ago
Not sure if it still works, but the ~/Library/KeyBindings/DefaultKeyBinding.dict approach maybe? I use it for putting # on the § key, and it's as simple as: { "\U00a7" = ( "insertText:", "#" ); } in that file. YMMV on >capitan though.

pkamb 10y ago

Sounds like it may take a while: > macOS 10.12 changes of the generic keyboard and mouse drivers made a great impact on Karabiner and Seil. > We should make a large changes in Karabiner and Seil architecture. > There is not a workaround for this issue. > Please wait an update of Karabiner and Seil for macOS 10.12. > (It may take a long time.)

OJFord 10y ago

Flycut clipboard history also broken. (Menubar icon flashes open then closes on click, rendering it unusable.)

sotojuan 10y ago

Phew, was going to lose my Caps Lock -> Ctrl + Escape binding. I downloaded the update, but will wait for Karabiner to support it.

HNSucksAss 10y ago

Because of Apple's idiotic failure to put real Delete keys on their laptops, the lack of Karabiner makes using them insufferable. WTF is wrong with Apple?