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Just take comfort in knowing that female attractiveness usually drops off a cliff far earlier than male attractiveness does. The same girl writing that essay wi

by qrendel 10y ago

Just take comfort in knowing that female attractiveness usually drops off a cliff far earlier than male attractiveness does. The same girl writing that essay will one day be 40+ and begging for any of those "genetic superiors" to give her five seconds, while the same male "uggo" with a stable income and decent hygiene will be able to take his pick of a bunch of nicer women who didn't view the whole of humanity through the lens of the beautiful people master race.

saiya-jin 10y ago
yeah, female skin ages faster, and skin is what we see on others. this ain't fair, but we can't fool genetics (for now). unconscious behavior like this made me lose much of the respect I had for women (and I started with lots of it!). the better I knew them the worse it got. sheepish mentality, playing all kinds of weird mind games all the time, frequent need of assurance of attractiveness and constant looking in the mirrors, never fully saying what they think directly to the person/man, and the list goes on and on (really, damn too long). once I stopped treating my partners as fully equals and started to be the dominant person in the relationship (this doesn't mean being an ahole, just a confident partner and a bit more), things started to be much better. women need THE man, alpha male, to gently/firmly dominate them. truly dominant ones ie successful in manager positions have usually just a string of failed relationships, since their partners are either less dominant -> submissive, and that doesn't breed much respect in relationship long term, or they are even more dominant which means usually pretty horrible persons and constant fights over nothing. Infrequent exceptions that work are just that, exceptions. Just to clarify - I don't have an experience with shallow and 'not-so-clever' ones where this behaviour is more pronounced, rather doctors, stock traders, cellular researchers, managers etc. just my 2 cents, I hope YMMV significantly :)
- Red_Tarsius 10y ago
  > Unconscious behavior like this made me lose much of the respect I had for women. I agree. What really gets me is that you're told to open up and talk about your emotions. They paint to bottle up as a negative trait, but women usually lose all respect for men – friends and partners – who share their own fears and worries. One time is enough to ruin your image and dismiss the good times. Empathy is replaced by disgust, since they don't want to be seen around with a weakling. I still believe everyone is worthy of respect and dignity. But I'm not going to put my trust on women. Sensitive men are creepy.
  - saiya-jin 10y ago
    ah yes, ever show a weakness, pain or suffering, and you're a goner in their eyes, pitiful worthless bag of meat. no more of that alpha which bleeds with a smile on his face and takes every hit in his life without stumbling. I mean, if you expect perfection, provide perfection, nothing less. my theory is that they feel weak (this goes beyond obvious physical weakness compared to men), hence the strong urge to have alphas 'guarding' and providing for them.
  - acaciapalm 10y ago
    Wow, you are hateful people. I've been a woman walking around with unshaven legs -- men recoil with disgust, tell me I am a "hairy beast", etc. It's been this way since middle school. Men are not the only ones to put up with disgust from the opposite sex. Dealing with this universal human experience should not make you "lose respect" for 50% of the population because we are not a homogenous lump, we are individuals and we are all different.
    - Red_Tarsius 10y ago
      I'm sorry you had to endure such insults. My post wasn't written out of hatred and I apologize if it came off that way. Sometimes I let past issues get the best of me. But I really appreciate the way you describe it – "Dealing with this universal human experience". I hope my manners didn't turn you off HN. It's a great community to be part of. You learn something new every day from developers of all walks of life! Please stick around, it's worth it.
      - acaciapalm 10y ago
        Non preoccuparti :)
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koube 10y ago
That's not a comfortable thought at all. I don't think this woman deserves a life of suffering simply for being honest with her feelings.
sctb 10y ago
> The same girl writing that essay will one day be 40+ and begging for any of those "genetic superiors" to give her five seconds... This is a personal attack and is not OK on Hacker News.
dang 10y ago
Actually, you can't comment like this here. It's one thing to post inflammatory rants about flamewar topics (like a bunch of others have done in this thread); significantly worse to conjure up nasty things on others and gloat; but adding a personal attack element into the mix crosses into bannable offense. Please don't post like this to HN again. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12536861 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12536861 and marked it off-topic.

by qrendel 10y ago

saiya-jin 10y ago

yeah, female skin ages faster, and skin is what we see on others. this ain't fair, but we can't fool genetics (for now). unconscious behavior like this made me lose much of the respect I had for women (and I started with lots of it!). the better I knew them the worse it got. sheepish mentality, playing all kinds of weird mind games all the time, frequent need of assurance of attractiveness and constant looking in the mirrors, never fully saying what they think directly to the person/man, and the list goes on and on (really, damn too long). once I stopped treating my partners as fully equals and started to be the dominant person in the relationship (this doesn't mean being an ahole, just a confident partner and a bit more), things started to be much better. women need THE man, alpha male, to gently/firmly dominate them. truly dominant ones ie successful in manager positions have usually just a string of failed relationships, since their partners are either less dominant -> submissive, and that doesn't breed much respect in relationship long term, or they are even more dominant which means usually pretty horrible persons and constant fights over nothing. Infrequent exceptions that work are just that, exceptions. Just to clarify - I don't have an experience with shallow and 'not-so-clever' ones where this behaviour is more pronounced, rather doctors, stock traders, cellular researchers, managers etc. just my 2 cents, I hope YMMV significantly :)

Red_Tarsius 10y ago
> Unconscious behavior like this made me lose much of the respect I had for women. I agree. What really gets me is that you're told to open up and talk about your emotions. They paint to bottle up as a negative trait, but women usually lose all respect for men – friends and partners – who share their own fears and worries. One time is enough to ruin your image and dismiss the good times. Empathy is replaced by disgust, since they don't want to be seen around with a weakling. I still believe everyone is worthy of respect and dignity. But I'm not going to put my trust on women. Sensitive men are creepy.
- saiya-jin 10y ago
  ah yes, ever show a weakness, pain or suffering, and you're a goner in their eyes, pitiful worthless bag of meat. no more of that alpha which bleeds with a smile on his face and takes every hit in his life without stumbling. I mean, if you expect perfection, provide perfection, nothing less. my theory is that they feel weak (this goes beyond obvious physical weakness compared to men), hence the strong urge to have alphas 'guarding' and providing for them.
- acaciapalm 10y ago
  Wow, you are hateful people. I've been a woman walking around with unshaven legs -- men recoil with disgust, tell me I am a "hairy beast", etc. It's been this way since middle school. Men are not the only ones to put up with disgust from the opposite sex. Dealing with this universal human experience should not make you "lose respect" for 50% of the population because we are not a homogenous lump, we are individuals and we are all different.
  - Red_Tarsius 10y ago
    I'm sorry you had to endure such insults. My post wasn't written out of hatred and I apologize if it came off that way. Sometimes I let past issues get the best of me. But I really appreciate the way you describe it – "Dealing with this universal human experience". I hope my manners didn't turn you off HN. It's a great community to be part of. You learn something new every day from developers of all walks of life! Please stick around, it's worth it.
    - acaciapalm 10y ago
      Non preoccuparti :)
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koube 10y ago

That's not a comfortable thought at all. I don't think this woman deserves a life of suffering simply for being honest with her feelings.

sctb 10y ago

> The same girl writing that essay will one day be 40+ and begging for any of those "genetic superiors" to give her five seconds... This is a personal attack and is not OK on Hacker News.

dang 10y ago

Actually, you can't comment like this here. It's one thing to post inflammatory rants about flamewar topics (like a bunch of others have done in this thread); significantly worse to conjure up nasty things on others and gloat; but adding a personal attack element into the mix crosses into bannable offense. Please don't post like this to HN again. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12536861 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12536861 and marked it off-topic.