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I have yet to see a single example of Trump's racism. It's an oft repeated cliche that has yet to be demonstrated by anyone. As much of a "clown" as trump mig

I have yet to see a single example of Trump's racism. It's an oft repeated cliche that has yet to be demonstrated by anyone. As much of a "clown" as trump might be, half of his labels are completely pulled out of thin air.

douche 10y ago
It's one of those blanket cliches that gets applied reflexively. For a not insignificant sliver of the population, "Republican" == "racist" is an axiom, all evidence for, against, or sideways be damned.
yolesaber 10y ago
Trump was sued repeatedly in the 70s for racially prejudiced housing policies. In the 80s he was accused of racist employment practices in his casinos. In this election he has repeatedly retweeted and positively engaged with white supremacists on twitter. He has retweeted (false) racially-charged statistics. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/opinion/sunday/is-donald-trump-a-racist.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/opinion/sunday/is-donald-t...
- Dagwoodie 10y ago
  I sympathize with the alleged prejudiced housing policies, if they are in fact true. I don't get the outrage about tweets. The tweets that got re-tweeted weren't racist in the least, is the guy or gal in charge of his Twitter account (I assume it's not him, i'll give you that) supposed to look at the history of every tweeter to see if tweets they come across are from racists? If anything, one of the staffers doing the retweet screwed up and didn't vet the messenger, but that's hardly a blemish on Trump other than "lesson learned, vet your tweets better." Edit: Some of the tweets he's re-tweeted are pretty questionable, i'll give you that much. I only saw a couple before, one about Jeb Bush which one article had as it's prime example so I was pretty confused.
maxerickson 10y ago
How do you characterize his remarks about Ghazala Khan maybe not being allowed to speak?
learc83 10y ago
In 1989 he reportedly said "Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day." He spent 5 years pushing the birther conspiracy even after Obama produced his birth certificate. He also implied that Obama was a Muslim despite his claims to the contrary. He's implied several times that Obama sides with terrorists because of his upbringing. He said a judge was unqualified to preside over a Trump University lawsuit because he was Mexican (turns out he was born in the US 60 years ago.) Paul Ryan called it a "textbook definition of racism". He started his campaign with this quote: "When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." Despite the fact that studies show first generation immigrants don't commit more crimes than native born citizens. He uses language like "My African American", "The Muslims", and "The Hispanics" when talking about minority groups. He refused to disavow David Duke on air until he "researched him more." He said he didn't know who he was, but it turns out there are numerous example of him mentioning David Duke in the past. He had primaries in southern states coming up, so publicly disavowing David Duke would have likely hurt him. Especially since David Duke has been campaigning for him. He did eventually disavow him after the media made a huge deal about it. He repeatedly refers to Elizabeth Warren as "Pocahontas". He said "They don’t look like Indians to me" about a Native American tribe that ran a competing casino. He said "Maybe [the protester] should have been roughed up,” he mused. “It was absolutely disgusting what he was doing." about a Black Lives matter protester at his rally. He said "I will say that people who are following me are very passionate,” Trump said. “They love this country and they want this country to be great again. They are passionate." when asked about supporters who beat a homeless Latino man because "they all need to be deported."
- jimmywanger 10y ago
  Fuzzy logic. > In 1989 he reportedly said "Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day." Last I checked, "Jewish" was not an ethnicity, but a belief system. > He spent 5 years pushing the birther conspiracy even after Obama produced his birth certificate. He also implied that Obama was a Muslim despite his claims to the contrary. Muslim is not a race. How is asking if the president was born in the US racist? > He's implied several times that Obama sides with terrorists because of his upbringing. Upbringing is a race? > He started his campaign with this quote: "When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. Mexico is a country, not a race. > He said a judge was unqualified to preside over a Trump University lawsuit because he was Mexican Mexican is not a race. Louis CK is mexican. > He uses language like "My African American", "The Muslims", and "The Hispanics". African american is not a race. Charlize Theron is African American. Islam is not a race, it's a belief system. Hispanics - so he's racist against Spaniards or just mestizos? > He refused to disavow David Duke on air until he "researched him more." He said he didn't know who he was, but it turns out there are numerous example of him mentioning David Duke in the past. He had primaries in southern states coming up, so publicly disavowing David Duke would have likely hurt him. Especially since David Duke has been campaigning for him. He did eventually disavow him after the media made a huge deal about it. He did eventually disavow him, after agreeing with none of his views. Your point is? > He repeatedly refers to Elizabeth Warren as "Pocahontas". She has provided no documentation for her purportedly Native American heritage, even when pressed by the Cherokee. > He said "They don’t look like Indians to me" about a Native American tribe that ran a competing casino. How is that racist? I often say to my friends "I thought you were Japanese. You don't look chinese." > He said "Maybe [the protester] should have been roughed up,” he mused. “It was absolutely disgusting what he was doing." about a Black Lives matter protester at his rally. Way to dog whistle. He said his actions are deplorable, and he mentioned the (racist) name of the movement he was associated with. > He said "I will say that people who are following me are very passionate,” Trump said. “They love this country and they want this country to be great again. They are passionate." when asked about supporters who beat a homeless Latino man because "they all need to be deported." Was the homeless Latino man an illegal immigrant or a citizen? If he was an illegal immigrant, he should be deported.
dang 10y ago
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12536290 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12536290 and marked it off-topic.

douche 10y ago

It's one of those blanket cliches that gets applied reflexively. For a not insignificant sliver of the population, "Republican" == "racist" is an axiom, all evidence for, against, or sideways be damned.

yolesaber 10y ago

Trump was sued repeatedly in the 70s for racially prejudiced housing policies. In the 80s he was accused of racist employment practices in his casinos. In this election he has repeatedly retweeted and positively engaged with white supremacists on twitter. He has retweeted (false) racially-charged statistics. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/opinion/sunday/is-donald-trump-a-racist.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/opinion/sunday/is-donald-t...

Dagwoodie 10y ago
I sympathize with the alleged prejudiced housing policies, if they are in fact true. I don't get the outrage about tweets. The tweets that got re-tweeted weren't racist in the least, is the guy or gal in charge of his Twitter account (I assume it's not him, i'll give you that) supposed to look at the history of every tweeter to see if tweets they come across are from racists? If anything, one of the staffers doing the retweet screwed up and didn't vet the messenger, but that's hardly a blemish on Trump other than "lesson learned, vet your tweets better." Edit: Some of the tweets he's re-tweeted are pretty questionable, i'll give you that much. I only saw a couple before, one about Jeb Bush which one article had as it's prime example so I was pretty confused.

maxerickson 10y ago

How do you characterize his remarks about Ghazala Khan maybe not being allowed to speak?

learc83 10y ago

In 1989 he reportedly said "Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day." He spent 5 years pushing the birther conspiracy even after Obama produced his birth certificate. He also implied that Obama was a Muslim despite his claims to the contrary. He's implied several times that Obama sides with terrorists because of his upbringing. He said a judge was unqualified to preside over a Trump University lawsuit because he was Mexican (turns out he was born in the US 60 years ago.) Paul Ryan called it a "textbook definition of racism". He started his campaign with this quote: "When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." Despite the fact that studies show first generation immigrants don't commit more crimes than native born citizens. He uses language like "My African American", "The Muslims", and "The Hispanics" when talking about minority groups. He refused to disavow David Duke on air until he "researched him more." He said he didn't know who he was, but it turns out there are numerous example of him mentioning David Duke in the past. He had primaries in southern states coming up, so publicly disavowing David Duke would have likely hurt him. Especially since David Duke has been campaigning for him. He did eventually disavow him after the media made a huge deal about it. He repeatedly refers to Elizabeth Warren as "Pocahontas". He said "They don’t look like Indians to me" about a Native American tribe that ran a competing casino. He said "Maybe [the protester] should have been roughed up,” he mused. “It was absolutely disgusting what he was doing." about a Black Lives matter protester at his rally. He said "I will say that people who are following me are very passionate,” Trump said. “They love this country and they want this country to be great again. They are passionate." when asked about supporters who beat a homeless Latino man because "they all need to be deported."

jimmywanger 10y ago
Fuzzy logic. > In 1989 he reportedly said "Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day." Last I checked, "Jewish" was not an ethnicity, but a belief system. > He spent 5 years pushing the birther conspiracy even after Obama produced his birth certificate. He also implied that Obama was a Muslim despite his claims to the contrary. Muslim is not a race. How is asking if the president was born in the US racist? > He's implied several times that Obama sides with terrorists because of his upbringing. Upbringing is a race? > He started his campaign with this quote: "When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. Mexico is a country, not a race. > He said a judge was unqualified to preside over a Trump University lawsuit because he was Mexican Mexican is not a race. Louis CK is mexican. > He uses language like "My African American", "The Muslims", and "The Hispanics". African american is not a race. Charlize Theron is African American. Islam is not a race, it's a belief system. Hispanics - so he's racist against Spaniards or just mestizos? > He refused to disavow David Duke on air until he "researched him more." He said he didn't know who he was, but it turns out there are numerous example of him mentioning David Duke in the past. He had primaries in southern states coming up, so publicly disavowing David Duke would have likely hurt him. Especially since David Duke has been campaigning for him. He did eventually disavow him after the media made a huge deal about it. He did eventually disavow him, after agreeing with none of his views. Your point is? > He repeatedly refers to Elizabeth Warren as "Pocahontas". She has provided no documentation for her purportedly Native American heritage, even when pressed by the Cherokee. > He said "They don’t look like Indians to me" about a Native American tribe that ran a competing casino. How is that racist? I often say to my friends "I thought you were Japanese. You don't look chinese." > He said "Maybe [the protester] should have been roughed up,” he mused. “It was absolutely disgusting what he was doing." about a Black Lives matter protester at his rally. Way to dog whistle. He said his actions are deplorable, and he mentioned the (racist) name of the movement he was associated with. > He said "I will say that people who are following me are very passionate,” Trump said. “They love this country and they want this country to be great again. They are passionate." when asked about supporters who beat a homeless Latino man because "they all need to be deported." Was the homeless Latino man an illegal immigrant or a citizen? If he was an illegal immigrant, he should be deported.

dang 10y ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12536290 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12536290 and marked it off-topic.