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Mozilla Thimble
- rosstex 10y agoThis reminds me, I've been using Brackets for a while and have been mostly satisfied. Should I make a switch?
- ksml 10y agoI'm confused. Why would you make a switch if you have been satisfied? Also, this doesn't seem like it's in the same category as Brackets; this seems more in the educational space.
- JulienRbrt 10y agoIsn't it exactly what was Mozilla Webmaker some years ago ?
- _1 10y agoThis one lets you do a mobile view.
- dzhiurgis 10y agoWhich is sort of ironic given mobile Mozilla marketshare is less than IE.
- wtbob 10y agoFWIW, I use Firefox on Android, and I'm extremely happy with it.
- TheRealPomax 10y agoIf low market share was a reason not to do something in browser-land, there would only be one browser. If anything, low market share is exactly when you should try to outdo the established competition =)
- rascul 10y agoIt does seem to use a webmaker.org login
- mook 10y agoIt looks like it _did_ live on Webmaker; https://thimble.webmaker.org/ https://thimble.webmaker.org/ redirects to this one. It would be nice if somebody could mention what changed on Thimble for this to come up again. (It could be that somebody who didn't know about it before just found it, which is cool too.)
- keithnz 10y agowhen you sign up you get an email saying "Welcome to Mozilla Webmaker! Thank you for joining us to discover, create and share the Web. I'm looking forward to seeing what you create."
- TheRealPomax 10y agoThis is the spiritual successor of that. "Webmaker" changed from a single product to "a suite of products" at the time, with this tool getting renamed to "Thimble". That thimble used Code Mirror for its editor, and only allowed you to write a single file. Since webpages aren't single files anymore, and haven't been for a while, we made a choice to try to integrate quite a few technologies (Adobe's Brackets as editor with tons of features, Filer for faking a POSIX filesystem in the browser, etc) into something that is both the same, but also a lot better, and the old Thimble got turned off (after about a year of having both up at the same time) last June.
- Achshar 10y agoDid you guys look into VS Code as an option for possible in-browser editors?
- TheRealPomax 10y agoWe didn't, mostly because VS Code didn't exist yet when we added in Brackets. It got released when we were already beta testing, and was still in extreme beta by the time we officially launched the updated tool in August 2015. It would be interesting to see how many other now-existing solutions might work for the code editor part, but at this point it would disturb quite a few people who now use Thimble in the classroom or at learn-to-code events, so while as a contributor PR it would be fantastic, we don't have the man hours to investigate a completely new code editor component (with its own UI that needs tailoring, filesystem requirements, plugin infrastructure, etc).
- tedmiston 10y agoFrom the video this looks like Mozilla's version of JSFiddle or JS Bin, but with four major differences: 1. Mozilla's awesome docs built-in 2. Integrated tutorials while you code 3. Mobile screen size preview 4. Completely free and no ads These are some nice differentiators IMO. I'll definitely give it a try.
- djsumdog 10y agoIt looks like it's geared more for a learning or simple content tool, more so than JSFiddle (which feels more like a pastebin)
- tedmiston 10y agoHaving played it with it a bit more, yeah, definitely. For example, the key bindings are a little weird / non-customizable that I can tell and auto-completion leaves a bit to be desired vs Vim / Emacs / Sublime keybindings (which JS Bin offers). Also I couldn't find a way to support meta CSS languages.
- eriknstr 10y agoAlso, like most (all?) Mozilla projects, it's open source. Neat! https://github.com/mozilla/thimble.mozilla.org https://github.com/mozilla/thimble.mozilla.org
- tn13 10y agoThe biggest factor in my opinion.
- rhizome 10y agoSome crazy dependencies. It would be cool if there was something like this completely local, an SPA for the UI and LocalStorage & IndexedDB for persistence and docs.
- dmlittle 10y agoPretty sure some of those dependencies are dev-dependencies
- sergiotapia 10y agoThought this was going to be a Windows Live Writer competitor. Man, I miss that software.
- the_trapper 10y agohttp://openlivewriter.org/ http://openlivewriter.org/
- vtbassmatt 10y agoMiss it no more: https://github.com/OpenLiveWriter https://github.com/OpenLiveWriter
- rgtk 10y agoConsidering this as JSFiddle or Codepen alternative, I would find difficulties in using it, having in mind all of these projects that Mozilla killed lately. I hope that Mozilla will finally figure out exactly what are their goals. They won't gain trust by releasing something promising and dropping it while after because it didn't match their expectations.
- tangue 10y agoMore fun : Mozilla was a precusor of web based editors with Bespin but the project was fucked up in a typical Mozillan way. It's the basis of Cloud9 IDE now
- williamstein 10y agoThimble uses Adobe brackets for the editor, which is built on CodeMirrorc which is the main OSS competitor to ACE/Bespin.
- jupiter2 10y ago> having in mind all of these projects that Mozilla killed lately I actually got angry when I saw it was from Mozilla. It's gotten to the point that supporting their projects seems like a waste of time. It's the old... "fool me twice, shame on me". Something like this would have fit in nicely with Firefox OS, too. They don't just pull the plug on interesting projects, they do it so quickly. > dropping it while after because it didn't match their expectations. I wonder what those are? Entry into the educational market, tie-in into other projects (that haven't already been killed), showcasing open technologies... Honestly, I'm not even sure they know themselves./rant Still... like much of their previous work, this looks promising.
- paulddraper 10y ago> Something like this would have fit in nicely with Firefox OS, too. Speaking of wastes of time....
- foxylad 10y ago
- superpope99 10y agoThey've clearly made an effort to appeal to a young audience and that should be commended
- JD557 10y agoIt would be pretty neat if this was collaborative (like google docs). That would be a nice way to teach HTML+CSS+JS remotely. I was actually expecting that feature when I saw that it was developed by Mozilla, as they made Together.js[1]. [1] https://togetherjs.com/ https://togetherjs.com/
- pbhjpbhj 10y agoThe together.js page says: >Log into Thimble, then click the 'Collaborate' button to start collaborating with a friend! // ... so it sounds like it's collaborative.
- holmb 10y agoIt appears that the collaborate functionality is a feature of the old version of Thimble. I cannot find any collaboration functionality in the new one.
- djstein 10y agothought this was the codepen beta..
- baby 10y agoThis thing is getting old now. It's the best way to learn HTML + CSS imo. Not Bracket or not any other coding school-like page. Now would you use that as a jsfiddle or a IDE? No. This is to learn only. And it is awesome.
- TheRealPomax 10y agoThe new version (with file/folder support and brackets as editor) has only been out for a year, I wouldn't call it brand new for obvious reasons, but it's not really "old" either?
- chipz 10y agoShould keep in mind that this just for learning purpose, can't really compare Thimble to an IDE or full pledged editor like Sublime or Atom
- lawpoop 10y agoI made a thing: https://thimbleprojects.org/smlefevre/102167/ https://thimbleprojects.org/smlefevre/102167/ Bash cheat sheet-- keyboard shortcuts for jumping and deleting words
- wyldfire 10y agoI liked it so I pitched in. Too lazy to make an account, though, so I put it in a gist [1]. [1] https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a22380f8c37b22dba03606e3684d6fd1 https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a22380f8c37b22dba03606e368... EDIT: now that I think of it, Ctrl-R is really the killer app of bash/readline and it's saved me many more keystrokes than the word/line delete or cursor motion keys.
- mohsinr 10y agoMaking account was very smooth and quick. Just username/password/email and Click.. auto login... and you are back to work.
- lexicality 10y agoPasswords are inconvenient. There's no real reason not to offer SSO/OAuth in this day and age.
- flukus 10y agoUnless the SSO provider decides to turn off your account.
- skybrian 10y agoI don't know how up to date it is, but it looks like there is more about the technology at [1]. [1] http://blog.humphd.org/thimble-and-bramble/ http://blog.humphd.org/thimble-and-bramble/
- orliesaurus 10y agoI really love JSbin (thank you Remy), I'll need to give this one a try! :D
- techbubble 10y agoI have been using Thimble to teach kids web development for several years via CoderDojo Silicon Valley. Kids just love it...it's simple and doesn't get in the way. I have tried Cloud9, CodePen and other cloud-based IDE's, but always keep coming back to Thimble. Here's a sample parent+child class on building a holiday greeting card: https://thimbleprojects.org/nik/20062 https://thimbleprojects.org/nik/20062 Here's a canvas drawing sample: https://thimbleprojects.org/nik/102205 https://thimbleprojects.org/nik/102205 The published Thimble project URL used to be hackable to remove the Remix button so kids could have free Github-like hosting, but alas it was removed. [Edit: Fixed links]
- flukeout 10y agoHeads up, your links are broken. They'll only work for you since they take you to the editor - can you use the links from the Publish dialog?
- techbubble 10y agoThank you. Links are fixed.
- flukeout 10y agoNo problem! I had a big hand the design of this current version of Thimble, and if you're willing to share, I'd love to hear about your experiences using it to Teach. Shoot me a message on Twitter @flukeout or you can email me at luke@mozillafoundation.org if you're interested. Cheers.
- petetnt 10y agoLike some mentioned, Thimble uses Brackets in it's core. After some hiatus, Brackets has seen more commits to the past month than in the past year combined. There's tons of starter issues (and more advanced ones) that can be tackled in the core right now too. If you want to get into OSS contributing or maybe you already are and want to contribute in general, check out the issues on GitHub! https://github.com/adobe/brackets https://github.com/adobe/brackets (Disclaimer: third party contributor of Brackets)
- nedsma 10y agoIt doesn't work in FF's private mode: "There was an error loading your Project. Please refresh your browser. NOTE: if you are using Private Browsing mode, please reload in normal mode." Any reason why?
- andrewvijay 10y agoThis has been around for a while. The product is great for beginners but yet doesn't get the attention it deserves. May be Mozilla should market more.
- vocatus_gate 10y ago"Keep calm and...." Ugh, when will this trend die
- TheRealPomax 10y agoIt died quite a while ago, which is why you see it almost nowhere anymore. But: it's open source, file an issue if you have a better starter idea. Everyone'll win.
- wepple 10y agoIt would be most excellent to describe roughly what this is in the title, expand upon <company> <random word>
- TheRealPomax 10y agoThe HN guidelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) ask us not to, instead saying to use the original title.
- okfuture 10y agoThimble is also extensively localized for users and learners who speak other languages. https://github.com/mozilla/thimble.mozilla.org/tree/master/locales https://github.com/mozilla/thimble.mozilla.org/tree/master/l...