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I'm over forty now and I am only starting to read the books we were assigned to read at school, e.g. Stendhal, Flaubert, Dostoevsky and the likes. In fact I gue

by gbog 10y ago

I'm over forty now and I am only starting to read the books we were assigned to read at school, e.g. Stendhal, Flaubert, Dostoevsky and the likes. In fact I guess I read these books as a kid but got nothing out of them, except grades. These are actually very good books, but being forced into reading them is the very way to make them unpalatable for life. If I didn't gave them a second try, I would still consider that as "literature" in the pejorative sense. In fact they are life, just more concentrate and immersive.

mjevans 10y ago
On the other hand, a lot of the books I had to read for assignments weren't good reading, but did convey good messages. 1984: A HORRID read, but a very telling archetype of distopia. The Great Gatsby: It really took 8 chapters to cover the thin vain outer shell before cracking in to the empty but interesting destruction of it all? Maybe a good metaphor for market crashes and corrections, but not a good read. The discussion part; I don't recall having a single meaningful actual /discussion/ of the books in class. That might have actually helped make the mindless drudgery of reading them have more meaning and allowed for deeper reflection about the meaning of the content we head read.
- johnloeber 10y ago
  Gatsby is not about being a metaphor for anything in particular; it's a snapshot of a particular time and place, an account of what a certain society was like. It's just an intriguing (and quite beautiful) story that captures the spirit of a certain era. By analogy, what you wrote is like saying: > The Mona Lisa? Roughly 75% of it is just kind of blurry. I can see her face in the middle, which I guess captures her likeness, but a photograph would've probably been better. It's easy to miss the point or merit of these books in class: often they're forced reading, you read them too early, etc. I would strongly encourage you to pick up 1984 or The Great Gatsby again, and read it one of these days. You'll probably get much more out of it. These books are considered among the greatest ever for good reason, and I'm sure you'll pick up on that if you give them another try. I think that Gatsby is so good that I re-read it once a year.
  - pbhjpbhj 10y ago
    Gatsby is really superficial, uncompelling, flat. I picked it up because it's referenced so much in USA media as being the book kids read at high-school. Personally I don't think anyone would be missing out by not reading it. It's just a weirdly written snapshot of life that's presented in such a tedious and uninspiring way ... what do you like about it? One of the worst books I've read.
- ashark 10y ago
  > The Great Gatsby: [...] Maybe a good metaphor for market crashes and corrections, but not a good read. I'm interested in more detail on this perspective of the story.
- enobrev 10y ago
  My issue with Gatsby, after maybe 5 or 6 attempts at reading it, was that I could never bring myself to give a damn about ANY of the characters. It found it impossible to relate to any single one of them, and thus couldn't bring myself to care about what happened to them either. I felt the same way about the Bell Jar. About halfway through I tossed my hands some up exclaiming "just walk into traffic and get it over with already". I couldn't possibly care about that character either. Never went back to finish it. 1984 had some disturbing beauty, and I did find myself concerned and caring. Pretty sure I read it twice by the time I was in my mid twenties.
pbhjpbhj 10y ago
We 'did' Animal Farm at school. Pointless for me as I knew none of the history, the whole Allegorical facet was missing. I quite enjoyed it though. When you're 11-15 you just don't have the context for many of the "great works". Would be interesting to sit in on the curriculum meetings of that age and hear what the rationale for those choices was.

by gbog 10y ago

mjevans 10y ago

On the other hand, a lot of the books I had to read for assignments weren't good reading, but did convey good messages. 1984: A HORRID read, but a very telling archetype of distopia. The Great Gatsby: It really took 8 chapters to cover the thin vain outer shell before cracking in to the empty but interesting destruction of it all? Maybe a good metaphor for market crashes and corrections, but not a good read. The discussion part; I don't recall having a single meaningful actual /discussion/ of the books in class. That might have actually helped make the mindless drudgery of reading them have more meaning and allowed for deeper reflection about the meaning of the content we head read.

johnloeber 10y ago
Gatsby is not about being a metaphor for anything in particular; it's a snapshot of a particular time and place, an account of what a certain society was like. It's just an intriguing (and quite beautiful) story that captures the spirit of a certain era. By analogy, what you wrote is like saying: > The Mona Lisa? Roughly 75% of it is just kind of blurry. I can see her face in the middle, which I guess captures her likeness, but a photograph would've probably been better. It's easy to miss the point or merit of these books in class: often they're forced reading, you read them too early, etc. I would strongly encourage you to pick up 1984 or The Great Gatsby again, and read it one of these days. You'll probably get much more out of it. These books are considered among the greatest ever for good reason, and I'm sure you'll pick up on that if you give them another try. I think that Gatsby is so good that I re-read it once a year.
- pbhjpbhj 10y ago
  Gatsby is really superficial, uncompelling, flat. I picked it up because it's referenced so much in USA media as being the book kids read at high-school. Personally I don't think anyone would be missing out by not reading it. It's just a weirdly written snapshot of life that's presented in such a tedious and uninspiring way ... what do you like about it? One of the worst books I've read.
ashark 10y ago
> The Great Gatsby: [...] Maybe a good metaphor for market crashes and corrections, but not a good read. I'm interested in more detail on this perspective of the story.
enobrev 10y ago
My issue with Gatsby, after maybe 5 or 6 attempts at reading it, was that I could never bring myself to give a damn about ANY of the characters. It found it impossible to relate to any single one of them, and thus couldn't bring myself to care about what happened to them either. I felt the same way about the Bell Jar. About halfway through I tossed my hands some up exclaiming "just walk into traffic and get it over with already". I couldn't possibly care about that character either. Never went back to finish it. 1984 had some disturbing beauty, and I did find myself concerned and caring. Pretty sure I read it twice by the time I was in my mid twenties.

pbhjpbhj 10y ago

We 'did' Animal Farm at school. Pointless for me as I knew none of the history, the whole Allegorical facet was missing. I quite enjoyed it though. When you're 11-15 you just don't have the context for many of the "great works". Would be interesting to sit in on the curriculum meetings of that age and hear what the rationale for those choices was.