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Show HN: A minimalistic cloud provider
- ayee 10y agoWhat's the bullshit?
- klodolph 10y agoI guess the bullshit is "everything that you might ever possibly want that isn't a Linux KVM instance".
- snoldak924 10y agoHow is this differentiated from Digital Ocean?
- vnglst 10y agoHow is this different from Digital Ocean?
- datamantle 10y agoWe aren't other than our Waterloo, Ontario location. We're focusing on some new features which are comparable to Digital Ocean.
- vnglst 10y agoCan I use it in Europe?
- ksml 10y agoIt's a dollar or two cheaper than DigitalOcean, with hybrid drives instead of SSDs. I don't really see any appeal; DigitalOcean already pitched this years ago (and has done very well)
- anderiv 10y ago$ whois datamantle.com | grep "Name Server" Name Server: NS1.DREAMHOST.COM Name Server: NS2.DREAMHOST.COM Name Server: NS3.DREAMHOST.COM Hrm...using dreamhost for their nameservers. Interesting choice. $ whois $(dig +short datamantle.com) | grep OrgName OrgName: Google Inc. Not dogfooding their own service? I think I'll pass.
- jjkmk 10y agoWhats wrong with using Dreamhost for nameservers, does it make any difference at all?
- tholford 10y agoNot the op of that comment, but in my experience, DH is something to be avoided :) it's been a few years, but still have unpleasant memories of cryptic errors, stability issues, and a clunky control panel.
- kej 10y agoAlso that time they messed up their auto-billing and stole $7 million from their customers.
- Shakahs 10y ago"Stole" is very misleading. Yes, their billing system had a bug and charged a bunch of customers in error. But DH handled it very well, were very transparent about what happened, refunded all the money (of course), and even went so far as to reimburse people that incurred overdraft fees.
- kej 10y ago"Even went so far as to reimburse people"!? They directly caused those people to lose money! Of course they reimbursed them; the alternative would have been to reimburse them after a slam dunk legal case. Dress it up however you like, they took $7 million that wasn't theirs.
- hundchenkatze 10y agoAnd then they gave it back, that doesn't seem that bad. They made a mistake, and they fixed. No one is perfect.
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- bdcravens 10y agoYou're only in Waterloo, Ontario, right? Perhaps you should price yourself significantly lower than a provider like Digital Ocean that offers more choice.
- Sami_Lehtinen 10y agohttp://upcloud.com http://upcloud.com simple efficient and cheaper than many. Yet it's quality, so it isn't really cheap like providers like http://time4vps.eu http://time4vps.eu
- udkl 10y agoovh is a cheaper (& better?) alternative : https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-ssd.xml https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-ssd.xml OpenStack KVM 1 vCore 2.4 GHz 2 GB RAM 10 GB SSD Local RAID 10 $3.49/month
- no1youknowz 10y agoUpvoted. Thank you for reminding me again about OVH. I was considering DO, but at these prices. I can spin something up and not even think about the cost.
- Normal_gaussian 10y agoI'm currently running some OVH boxes and my largest gripe is the low storage space. That's the only thing that would draw me to another provider
- ar0 10y agoScaleway (scaleway.com) offers similar pricing to OVH but with more storage. They only have a datacenter in France, though, so if you use the OVH data center in Québec it will not be of much use. I personally haven't tried them, but they are part of Iliad, the large French telecom / Internet business, so I would expect them to be reliable and to stick around.
- Normal_gaussian 10y agoWow those look like an amazing deal! Storage really is my bottleneck on a couple of projects... I'm in the UK so France is perfect. Thanks
- anon4711 10y agoQuick rundown of alternatives and up/downsides (e.g. everybody has Debian so that's not noteworthy) of which I've personally used the first four: - DigitalOcean has FreeBSD has Fedora - Vultr has FreeBSD has Fedora - Linode has Fedora cheaper than the others relatively fast CPUs e.g. Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v3 @ 2.50GHz UI not as nice as the others' - Exoscale has OpenBSD - CloudScale only does daily (rather than hourly) billing
- deadlyllama 10y agoVultr has many more locations than the others. There aren't too many good, affordable providers in AU/NZ.
- devicenull 10y agoVultr: Lets you upload your own ISO, and run whatever OS you want
- diegorbaquero 10y agoMap Comparison for DO, Vultr and Linode: http://imgur.com/mesaHoN http://imgur.com/mesaHoN
- JoshTriplett 10y agoThis looks interesting, but I'm very hesitant to try a new cloud provider with anything critical. What do people do to gain confidence in a cloud provider, other than wait and see if early adopters report anything breaking? Also, does this provide access to a management API, to programmatically start, configure, and stop servers?
- datamantle 10y agoWe're working on the API (we use one internally, but we just need more testing / robustness of it before we launch anything)
- JoshTriplett 10y agoIn an ideal world, consider providing a standard API (e.g. OpenStack) rather than a provider-specific one.
- mankash666 10y agoThere's an issue using smaller vendors if your app happens to scale. AWS and the like have a modular approach where you can add things that are bottlenecking your scaling. Like additional DB instance, etc. That's a killer feature if you're stuck with unexpected growth
- ohstopitu 10y agoI'm wondering what the policy on hosting seedboxes and torrenting is?
- throwaway1974 10y agoCan I pay with bitcoin? if not then why? I currently use vultr and it spins up/down instances when my program needs it an automatically pay them with bitcoin
- datamantle 10y agoWe're going to integrate this with Stripe soon.
- jeanlucas 10y ago+1 for Bitcoin
- kristianc 10y agoWhy is minimalism a benefit here? Other than that it doesn't look too different from DigitalOcean, which comes with great support and the confidence of a lot of people using it.
- datamantle 10y agoNo benefit, we just wanted a straight-to-the-point VPS. An alternative for those whom want a VPS closer-to-home (Waterloo)
- kinkdr 10y agoWill definitely give it a try. Looks really promising, and love the low prices. PS: Your front page has a tiny bit of horizontal scrolling. Have a look at your CSS.
- datamantle 10y agoThanks man! I'll fix that.
- datamantle 10y agoThanks everyone for the comments! If any of you want to try the service for free, use the promo code LAUNCH and it'll add credit to your account.
- phillc73 10y agoStill need to add credit card details. Can understand why you might want to do that, but it is now a barrier too high for me in order to just try out something which could be interesting. EDIT: As per the comment below, this does indeed work. I initially tried on my phone and I kept seeing an error to complete the missing fields. On my desktop, it worked. Thanks.
- liberix 10y agoYou can get the free credit if you just press ENTER after entering the promo code (without needing to enter the credit card details). It's not very intuitive, but it worked for me.
- datamantle 10y agoI've fixed this by adding a button for replying :)
- anon4711 10y ago"Sign up to view more plans" Except that after I sign up, I still can't view the plans until I set up my billing details. Meh.
- IgorPartola 10y agoIPv6? If not, this is a non-starter.
- datamantle 10y agoUnfortunately the DC we're at has yet to implement IPv6.
- webtechgal 10y agoTrying to register but keep getting a 502 Bad Gateway error. Is it just me? Edit: Even the home page throwing up 502 now.
- datamantle 10y agoSorry about that, we're back up now!
- webtechgal 10y agoLooks like they were rebooting or something. All working fine now, got the $5 credit using the promo code LAUNCH (without cc)... Can't wait to spin up an instance and try things out!!
- ubanholzer 10y agoYour twitter / fb link is wrong
- znpy 10y agoThe website graphics reminds me of Kihi Hosting, which also was from Canada. Is this company a descendant of Kihi Hosting? I used to like Kihi hosting.
- ovao 10y agoJust a current curiosity: how did you choose a minimum password length of 8 characters? Was there any insight into the decision or did it 'feel right'?
- markwoodhall 10y agoI've seen many articles that suggest a minimum password length of 8 characters. For example, the latest update published on Naked Security - https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2016/08/18/nists-new-password-rules-what-you-need-to-know/ https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2016/08/18/nists-new-passwo...
- nesto 10y agowww.arubacloud.com is cheaper as well. I'm using a 1GB RAM Ubuntu for 1 USD/month
- Rapidwire 10y agoNot sure if this is helpful, but here's some output from one of their 4 USD/month servers: root@localhost:~# lscpu Architecture: x86_64 CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit Byte Order: Little Endian CPU(s): 1 On-line CPU(s) list: 0 Thread(s) per core: 1 Core(s) per socket: 1 Socket(s): 1 NUMA node(s): 1 Vendor ID: GenuineIntel CPU family: 6 Model: 2 Model name: QEMU Virtual CPU version 2.1.2 Stepping: 3 CPU MHz: 1899.998 BogoMIPS: 3799.99 Hypervisor vendor: KVM Virtualization type: full L1d cache: 32K L1i cache: 32K L2 cache: 4096K NUMA node0 CPU(s): 0 Flags: fpu de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx lm rep_good nopl pni cx16 popcnt hypervisor lahf_lm abm root@localhost:~# sudo lshw -short H/W path Device Class Description ================================================ system Bochs /0 bus Motherboard /0/0 memory 96KiB BIOS /0/401 processor QEMU Virtual CPU version 2.1.2 /0/1000 memory 512MiB System Memory /0/1000/0 memory 512MiB DIMM RAM /0/100 bridge 440FX - 82441FX PMC [Natoma] /0/100/1 bridge 82371SB PIIX3 ISA [Natoma/Triton II] /0/100/1.1 storage 82371SB PIIX3 IDE [Natoma/Triton II] /0/100/1.2 bus 82371SB PIIX3 USB [Natoma/Triton II] /0/100/1.2/1 usb1 bus UHCI Host Controller /0/100/1.3 bridge 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI /0/100/2 display GD 5446 /0/100/3 ens3 network Virtio network device /0/100/4 storage Virtio block device /0/100/5 generic Virtio memory balloon /0/1 scsi1 storage /0/1/0.0.0 /dev/cdrom disk DVD reader The RAM is ECC, according to the "dmidecode -t memory" command. root@localhost:~# dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync 16384+0 records in 16384+0 records out 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 12.5635 s, 85.5 MB/s
- jeanlucas 10y agoTrying it out from Brazil. Any heads up? Doesn't get cheaper than Bluemix/Softlayer (currency difference), but I am willing to try and :-) You say you are cloud provider... Can I work with containers? Auto scaling?
- jeanlucas 10y agoOK: I liked to get up and running in less than 5 minutes. Feedback/idea: maybe you can improve the flow putting the ssh/key before setting up a server (and maybe even making a before step). Some twitching when mouse-over the "deploying" status icon after setting up a server. Plus, apparently didn't update the status when it got online, needed to refresh the page. Problem: Started with Ubuntu 16, successfully ssh'd into it, but couldn't run `apt-get update` and had some script using apt before I even first logged (http://i.imgur.com/exATwTD.png http://i.imgur.com/exATwTD.png), I think it's this same issue: https://github.com/boxcutter/ubuntu/issues/73 https://github.com/boxcutter/ubuntu/issues/73 Will post more as it comes or you can reach me on twitter (@aleattorium - DMs are open)
- jeanlucas 10y agoOn the same machine... When deleted got in a weird flow... Was forced to login again and it tried to come back to the machine original URL after it was deleted and gave me a 404.
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- epse 10y agoI would suggest you display payment methods on the website. If I need to register to see it, I am not going to look at it at all