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> Meanwhile the housing is still affordable compared to the Bay Area, if not cheap on a national basis. And the Valley is an hourlong Southwest flight away. I
by RCortex 10y ago
> Meanwhile the housing is still affordable compared to the Bay Area, if not cheap on a national basis. And the Valley is an hourlong Southwest flight away.
I see lots of >$1 million homes and >$1500/month rents for apartments, in the suburbs. Do you have any specific areas in mind? I'm thinking about moving.
- douche 10y agoI think the key qualifier there is "compared to the Bay Area"
- roadnottaken 10y agoIn north county, places like Rancho Penasquitos (92129) have great schools and you can find decent single-family homes in the low $600's these days. It's about 15 minutes from the coast without traffic -- 25 mins from downtown. Nearby areas like Mira Mesa and Clairemont are cheaper but the public schools aren't as good.
- niels_olson 10y agoShhhhh! Just shhhhhusshh!
- monkmartinez 10y agoI don't think you have to worry... there is a NET outflow of people living in California[1]. Why? My mother always said if you don't have anything nice to say about a group of people, don't say anything at all. [1]https://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/great-california-exodus-closer-look-5853.html https://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/great-california-ex...
- khuey 10y agoThere's a net outflow when considering purely domestic migration, maybe. California's population is still growing, driven by immigration and births.
- monkmartinez 10y ago$600,000 is affordable? How about smart? I don't mean to chide, but $600,000 for a cookie cutter tract-home is down right absurd. California is nuts.
- fossuser 10y agoThe comparison is 2million in Palo Alto for an attached townhouse ~2200sqft. You might be able to get an 800k house in a bad neighborhood (east palo alto) that's 1100 sqft. Friend in Buffalo is buying a house for 120k, difference is extreme.
- leesalminen 10y ago> Friend in Buffalo is buying a house for 120k, difference is extreme. Buffalo is an extreme example, both nationally and inside Buffalo itself. The most expensive single family homes in the city are ~$1.5MM [0]. These are mansions built in the early 1900s right on a beautiful park. Alternatively, you can buy an almost condemned house in a bad neighborhood for ~$5,000 [1]. People actually live in those places. [0] http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/82-Meadow-Rd-Buffalo-NY-14216/ http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/82-Meadow-Rd-Buffalo-NY-14... [1] http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/647-Norfolk-Ave_Buffalo_NY_14215_M46166-25420?row=4 http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/647-Norfolk...
- Spooky23 10y agoBuffalo is a rust belt place that has been in the wane for decades. A decade ago, they were razing 50 houses a month.
- shostack 10y agoAnd I'll bet the average salary and job prospects in Buffalo are reflective of the low house prices.
- codeddesign 10y agoIf you live in rural Kentucky, housing in many parts of Florida would be considered absurd. Comparing costs of living in wages against locations is apples and oranges. You can get a home with 2000sgft in Montana with 50 acres for the same price as a cookie cutter home in a subdivision in North Carolina. Housing is based on numerous economic factors including wage and comps (what other people have been willing to spend on similar homes in the area)
- uptownfunk 10y agoI love PQ. Guys PLEASE don't come to San Diego. I like it the way it is and would hate to see it turn into another Bay Area. On a more serious note I still have no idea why people haven't figured this out and all flooded the place... You could have some killer startups here..
- Johnnybe 10y agoI guess it's good if you have a family and don't go out. Other than that, it's BORING!
- laughfactory 10y agoOther than the fact that there's no cheap talent to build the start-ups with because you can't live here and work for cheap...
- Johnnybe 10y agoThis!
- sjdchid 10y agoSounds like similar prices and commute to Daly City. Can anyone who knows both regions distinguish them for me?
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- antognini 10y agoEscondido is another reasonably priced suburb. My wife and I bought a nice house there in the mid $500s. The only downside of Escondido is that the school system is not great and it's a good 40 minutes from downtown SD.
- bobthecowboy 10y ago+1 for Exco! Wife and I bought a fixer-upper in old Escondido for a bit under 300. There's several tech companies in North County, and you can take Del Dios to the coast pretty easily (which is where I work).
- Johnnybe 10y ago40 minutes? Maybe using FasTrak.
- antognini 10y agoHa, true. Normally we aren't going there during rush hour. It's probably more like an hour or an hour and 15 minutes during rush hour.
- falkenb0t 10y agoCan confirm: currently live in Rancho Penasquitos and it's great if not a little suburban. That said, if I were a little older and had a family it would be perfect.
- luizb 10y ago>In north county, places like Rancho Penasquitos (92129) have great schools and you can find decent single-family homes in the low $600's these days. Not true. I just bought a house in PQ and there's no WAY you can find anything below 650.
- roadnottaken 10y agoDepends on which part. North-east PQ (over by Rolling Hills) homes were built in the early 70s and are still going in the low 600's. I believe west PQ (Black Mountain Rd area) homes are newer and more expensive.
- niels_olson 10y agowe could start a PQ HN meet-up. My treehouse accomodates 4 and has a pulley system. We can haul up buckets of beer :) Note to self: uptownfunk, falkenb0t also in PQ. That's 5
- sdbluesman 10y ago+1 for PQ meetup
- niels_olson 10y agoSecond Chance or BT's Southern BBQ would be good.
- sdelong 10y agoI'm interesting in restarting the old SD Hacker News Group. I have access to the old email list and there is an existing google group. How about combining efforts?
- niels_olson 10y agoSure. I know the owner of BT's.
- laughfactory 10y agoYeah, unless you wanna live in a box under a bridge (but even that's becoming more challenging), you'll find those prices you quote to be very accurate. And at $1500 you're not living in a nice area. That's about the cheapest we could find for a two bedroom in Clairemont with lead paint on the walls and asbestos in the ceiling. And buying is no better. $500K here will get you a square box in a "gentrifying" section of town and it'll need a lot of work. Tldr: housing is NOT cheap on a national basis...only by comparison to NYC and the Bay Area. An easy Google search shows how unaffordable it is here. So it's great here if you've got, or can make, a lot of money. But for everyone else, it's tough.
- ftlio 10y agoI lived in North Park for $1700/month in 1100 sq ft. Plenty of stuff within walking distance as well as only being a few miles from Downtown. Living right next to Balboa Park was great as well. Compared to LA (and the better paying / more diverse opportunities you can find there), I'd have to classify it as expensive.