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I can't tell you how happy I'd be if someone made a network of applications you could download and install in under a second that ran in any other language.

n00b101 10y ago
ran in any other language When you say "language" here, are you referring to the web languages (HTML, JS)?
- mcav 10y ago
  I think they're referring to any non-web language, e.g. if I could host and distribute C apps with the ease of the web. (Getting end-users to actually run and use a program with one click, rather than having to download a binary, run it separately, etc.)
  - imtringued 10y ago
    Are you thinking of something along the lines of `ceylon run com.example.helloworld/1.0.0`? This command downloads the module if it's not locally available from the remote repository and then runs it to print "Hello, World!".
khedoros 10y ago
Ditto, because most things I use online load in the >10 second range and don't "install" in any meaningful sense of the word.
spdustin 10y ago
So, RDP/VNC to a server running a full desktop GUI application with folder redirection to access local files?
flukus 10y ago
You mean like apt or chocalatey or any other package manager?
venuzr 10y ago
Is there a way to extend a running javascript app without restart. Say I have a Single Page APP (built on React if that matters) and I want to allow third party developers to add Components / modules/ themes/ plugins to a registry. I want to be able to allow end users to choose third party plugins from the registry to extend the capabilities of the SPA. Is this possible? If so, is there any guidance on how to achieve this? Thanks
- icebraining 10y ago
  Sure it's possible. As an example, Odoo is a full Python webapp "platform", with a core upon which the user can choose and load plugins to add features (from a simple contact list to a full-blown ERP/CRM/accouting/CMS) and extensions to those features. On the frontend side, when you install a module, it loads the .js file (using a regular <script> tag) which contains a single function. The Odoo core passes its main JS object (the base of the core API) to that function, which then initializes the whole module and uses the Odoo API to configure stuff, setup hooks, etc. There's no security, though: by design, a module is trusted and can do anything on the platform. I'm not sure if and how one could contain them. (Disclaimer: I'm a developer working for an Odoo partner, we write modules and host it as a SaaS.)
  - Gaelan 10y ago
    I don't speak Python, but on the client modules could run in web workers.
xj9 10y ago
I'm pretty much solo on this, but I'm trying to build something along those lines.[1][2] [1]: https://www.infinite-automata.com/ https://www.infinite-automata.com/ [2]: https://gitlab.com/infinite-automata/ https://gitlab.com/infinite-automata/

n00b101 10y ago

ran in any other language When you say "language" here, are you referring to the web languages (HTML, JS)?

mcav 10y ago
I think they're referring to any non-web language, e.g. if I could host and distribute C apps with the ease of the web. (Getting end-users to actually run and use a program with one click, rather than having to download a binary, run it separately, etc.)
- imtringued 10y ago
  Are you thinking of something along the lines of `ceylon run com.example.helloworld/1.0.0`? This command downloads the module if it's not locally available from the remote repository and then runs it to print "Hello, World!".

khedoros 10y ago

Ditto, because most things I use online load in the >10 second range and don't "install" in any meaningful sense of the word.

spdustin 10y ago

So, RDP/VNC to a server running a full desktop GUI application with folder redirection to access local files?

flukus 10y ago

You mean like apt or chocalatey or any other package manager?

venuzr 10y ago

Is there a way to extend a running javascript app without restart. Say I have a Single Page APP (built on React if that matters) and I want to allow third party developers to add Components / modules/ themes/ plugins to a registry. I want to be able to allow end users to choose third party plugins from the registry to extend the capabilities of the SPA. Is this possible? If so, is there any guidance on how to achieve this? Thanks

icebraining 10y ago
Sure it's possible. As an example, Odoo is a full Python webapp "platform", with a core upon which the user can choose and load plugins to add features (from a simple contact list to a full-blown ERP/CRM/accouting/CMS) and extensions to those features. On the frontend side, when you install a module, it loads the .js file (using a regular <script> tag) which contains a single function. The Odoo core passes its main JS object (the base of the core API) to that function, which then initializes the whole module and uses the Odoo API to configure stuff, setup hooks, etc. There's no security, though: by design, a module is trusted and can do anything on the platform. I'm not sure if and how one could contain them. (Disclaimer: I'm a developer working for an Odoo partner, we write modules and host it as a SaaS.)
- Gaelan 10y ago
  I don't speak Python, but on the client modules could run in web workers.

xj9 10y ago

I'm pretty much solo on this, but I'm trying to build something along those lines.[1][2] [1]: https://www.infinite-automata.com/ https://www.infinite-automata.com/ [2]: https://gitlab.com/infinite-automata/ https://gitlab.com/infinite-automata/