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American policies towards immigration are plain stupid, destructive and damaging economy potential long term. The solution IMO is very simple: open up easy imm

by readhn 10y ago

American policies towards immigration are plain stupid, destructive and damaging economy potential long term. The solution IMO is very simple: open up easy immigration path to USA for those with advanced degrees (MS/PhD in science/technology) from world's accredited universities. Thats it! Attract top talent! Start today! Not throw it away to your tomorrows competitors. Build better society/economy here in USA using help and labor of educated people who are eager to come here to build better lives for themselves and ultimately the entire country. People still want to come here despite even this shifting tide - the reason again simple - it is still one of the best place to live and work (there are plenty of other countries in Europe and outside of Europe as well), despite all the problems that USA has (like any country). Do not wait until we have to beg people to come here, because by then it will probably be too late.

searine 10y ago
>open up easy immigration path to USA for those with advanced degrees (MS/PhD in science/technology) from world's accredited universities. AKA How to create diploma mills in one easy step.
- zaidf 10y ago
  That is a catch-all argument against basically anything. So my catch-all response: "Obviously. So what? Not a super hard problem to fix."
- readhn 10y ago
  >>for those with advanced degrees (MS/PhD in science/technology) from world's accredited universities no, there should be a list of accredited universities - problem solved! (Insead, MC Gill, Oxford, MSU, UCL ... top schools !) If USA can steal that kinda of talent on a routine basis, can you imagine the things we can do for the economy/politicies/society?
  - bdhess 10y ago
    As someone who's been involved with university recruiting, it's clear to me that even great schools run moneymaker degree mill programs. There are degree mill programs in Top 5 CS schools because people from overseas are willing to pay substantially for the credential (and OPT).
    - readhn 10y ago
      Are you telling me Mc Gill or Oxford or Insead, for instance, are going to put their name on a crappy diploma where person is completely clueless? Come on! Create a list of best ranked foreign universities and make an easy path for their graduates to come to USA / look for work / start families and and eventually naturalize if they want to. USA should really use the opportunity where Europe and other parts of the world are unstable and they have a pool of good brains/talents looking to potentially escape those places. Look at Russia for instance - they lost top brains in science in the late 80-90's due to instability in the country. Where are these guys today? Running science labs at universities/companies in USA/Europe and all over the world. Where is Russia today? Completely screwed and not able to replenish the talent pool. Do you think they do not wish today that they had paid their professors or grad students a bit more than 10$/month to keep them from leaving the country back in the 90's? How would history develop if Sergei Brin's family was not allowed to get an entry visa to USA? (personally i do not think that google would exist today here or in russia). The situation with immigration today is unprecedented. USA is given free golden ticket and it does not want to take it.

by readhn 10y ago

searine 10y ago

>open up easy immigration path to USA for those with advanced degrees (MS/PhD in science/technology) from world's accredited universities. AKA How to create diploma mills in one easy step.

zaidf 10y ago
That is a catch-all argument against basically anything. So my catch-all response: "Obviously. So what? Not a super hard problem to fix."
readhn 10y ago
>>for those with advanced degrees (MS/PhD in science/technology) from world's accredited universities no, there should be a list of accredited universities - problem solved! (Insead, MC Gill, Oxford, MSU, UCL ... top schools !) If USA can steal that kinda of talent on a routine basis, can you imagine the things we can do for the economy/politicies/society?
- bdhess 10y ago
  As someone who's been involved with university recruiting, it's clear to me that even great schools run moneymaker degree mill programs. There are degree mill programs in Top 5 CS schools because people from overseas are willing to pay substantially for the credential (and OPT).
  - readhn 10y ago
    Are you telling me Mc Gill or Oxford or Insead, for instance, are going to put their name on a crappy diploma where person is completely clueless? Come on! Create a list of best ranked foreign universities and make an easy path for their graduates to come to USA / look for work / start families and and eventually naturalize if they want to. USA should really use the opportunity where Europe and other parts of the world are unstable and they have a pool of good brains/talents looking to potentially escape those places. Look at Russia for instance - they lost top brains in science in the late 80-90's due to instability in the country. Where are these guys today? Running science labs at universities/companies in USA/Europe and all over the world. Where is Russia today? Completely screwed and not able to replenish the talent pool. Do you think they do not wish today that they had paid their professors or grad students a bit more than 10$/month to keep them from leaving the country back in the 90's? How would history develop if Sergei Brin's family was not allowed to get an entry visa to USA? (personally i do not think that google would exist today here or in russia). The situation with immigration today is unprecedented. USA is given free golden ticket and it does not want to take it.