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If the US wants, it can a) start growing it's own tech people instead of being constrained by a lack of them, b) make immigration easier for tech people in the

If the US wants, it can a) start growing it's own tech people instead of being constrained by a lack of them, b) make immigration easier for tech people in the meantime, and c) stop focusing on bringing manufacturing back and focus instead on moving people's skills up the value chain so that they can innovate as opposed to stamping and assembling the innovations of others. Also, not sure that putting two cameras on a phone and removing the headphone jack is exactly innovation. Those seem more like features. The Internet and mobile devices are real innovation imo.

paulsutter 10y ago
What phone were you using 10 years ago (2006), and how does it compare to phones today? Bill Gates says that people overestimate what will happen in two years, and underestimate what will happen in ten years. It's easier to see that looking back.
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- a3n 10y ago
  A Nokia feature phone. I liked it a lot. For you younger people ... you see, Nokia was a company that made excellent phones that almost no other company could touch, and then ...
  - tw04 10y ago
    And then Apple figured out the average American cares more about what they pay monthly for an object than they do about the total cost. So instead of "owning" a phone that you could run over with a truck, you "rented" a phone that would break if you looked at it wrong for 7x the price. Brilliant move on their part, and I wouldn't trade my google maps for anything. But I miss the hell out of my blackberry email to this day.
    - pfranz 10y ago
      > And then Apple figured out the average American cares more about what they pay monthly for an object than they do about the total cost. To be fair, that was a trend long before Apple made phones. To me, it looked like they tried to break that trend but got too much resistance from users who wouldn't pay the upfront cost.
    - flukus 10y ago
      Phone plans existed long before the iphone.
android521 10y ago
You idea is so protectionist. It is like saying US should not bring in great scientist and just focus on mass producing within the county. And you wouldn't have Einstein. The point is no matter how much you try to force produce talents within your country , there will always more great talents in other parts of the world. US was great because it is the centre of the universe and all the top talents want to come here. Now it is no longer the case. Gradually, US is losing this big advantage.
- briandear 10y ago
  I don't think the majority of H1 visa holders could be considered "top talent." Perhaps "cheaper talent." We eliminate the Tata-style H1B abuses and actually make H1B for TOP talent and not cheap talent, then those future Einsteins can come to the US. Your average "top talent" isn't going to work for Tata or Infosys. They're going to apply directly or they're going to be recruited. Ted Cruz proposed at $100K minimum salary for H1's. Not a bad way to solve this problem. $100K is nothing for actual top talent, but it certainly means that the incentive to outsource low level IT to H1 companies is much much less. The problem isn't the lack of talent, it's the lack of companies willing to pay for the talent. You can hire anybody you want if you're willing to pay enough. Start offering $250K for a starting salary for an engineer -- you'll have hundreds of resumes within the hour and probably one or two would be top talent. That same job at $80k -- dozens of resumes and probably not a single one that could be considered top talent.
  - dragonwriter 10y ago
    > We eliminate the Tata-style H1B abuses and actually make H1B for TOP talent and not cheap talent Top talent is what the O-1A and O-1B are for. We don't need the H-1B for that.
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    - HillaryBriss 10y ago

paulsutter 10y ago

What phone were you using 10 years ago (2006), and how does it compare to phones today? Bill Gates says that people overestimate what will happen in two years, and underestimate what will happen in ten years. It's easier to see that looking back.

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a3n 10y ago
A Nokia feature phone. I liked it a lot. For you younger people ... you see, Nokia was a company that made excellent phones that almost no other company could touch, and then ...
- tw04 10y ago
  And then Apple figured out the average American cares more about what they pay monthly for an object than they do about the total cost. So instead of "owning" a phone that you could run over with a truck, you "rented" a phone that would break if you looked at it wrong for 7x the price. Brilliant move on their part, and I wouldn't trade my google maps for anything. But I miss the hell out of my blackberry email to this day.
  - pfranz 10y ago
    > And then Apple figured out the average American cares more about what they pay monthly for an object than they do about the total cost. To be fair, that was a trend long before Apple made phones. To me, it looked like they tried to break that trend but got too much resistance from users who wouldn't pay the upfront cost.
  - flukus 10y ago
    Phone plans existed long before the iphone.

android521 10y ago

You idea is so protectionist. It is like saying US should not bring in great scientist and just focus on mass producing within the county. And you wouldn't have Einstein. The point is no matter how much you try to force produce talents within your country , there will always more great talents in other parts of the world. US was great because it is the centre of the universe and all the top talents want to come here. Now it is no longer the case. Gradually, US is losing this big advantage.

briandear 10y ago
I don't think the majority of H1 visa holders could be considered "top talent." Perhaps "cheaper talent." We eliminate the Tata-style H1B abuses and actually make H1B for TOP talent and not cheap talent, then those future Einsteins can come to the US. Your average "top talent" isn't going to work for Tata or Infosys. They're going to apply directly or they're going to be recruited. Ted Cruz proposed at $100K minimum salary for H1's. Not a bad way to solve this problem. $100K is nothing for actual top talent, but it certainly means that the incentive to outsource low level IT to H1 companies is much much less. The problem isn't the lack of talent, it's the lack of companies willing to pay for the talent. You can hire anybody you want if you're willing to pay enough. Start offering $250K for a starting salary for an engineer -- you'll have hundreds of resumes within the hour and probably one or two would be top talent. That same job at $80k -- dozens of resumes and probably not a single one that could be considered top talent.
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  > We eliminate the Tata-style H1B abuses and actually make H1B for TOP talent and not cheap talent Top talent is what the O-1A and O-1B are for. We don't need the H-1B for that.
- asldjhcakjhc 10y ago
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  - HillaryBriss 10y ago