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> What's the case against community colleges historically? nothing, but they don't have slick advertising and promise you a $75k/year job, or aggressively recr

> What's the case against community colleges historically? nothing, but they don't have slick advertising and promise you a $75k/year job, or aggressively recruit you by calling you non-stop and using manipulative pressure tactics like you're buying a $50,000 cell phone plan at a mall kiosk.

dec0dedab0de 10y ago
or aggressively recruit you by calling you non-stop and using manipulative pressure tactics Wow, you just reminded me of something funny that happened about 15 years ago. A younger friend of mine was interested in tech, and knew I was "good with computers". They had taken some online quiz, and said I should take it. So I took it, and filled out my info thinking I might win something (I was young, and didn't particularly care.) About 15 minutes later I got a phone call from a guy trying to tell me that I was in a dead end job, and that I would never be anything if I didn't go to the school he was pushing. I think I just laughed, and said something snarky like "at least I'm not calling people up selling things." Then about an hour later he called back from another number, and was making fun of my (admittedly awful) band, asking where he could buy tickets. I calmly just told him we would appreciate the support, and gave him our website. He just hung up in a huff, but it was a very weird exchange. In any case, I am very surprised anybody ever buys anything from pushy salespeople. I always immediately equate it to a low quality product, or a business with questionable morals.
- Practicality 10y ago
  " I am very surprised anybody ever buys anything from pushy salespeople. " Agreed. The irony is the majority of people do. Sadly, most people are irrational > 50% of the time. Sure. They are capable of being rational, but they don't exercise that capability.
  - jimbokun 10y ago
    And that doesn't exclude those of us posting on Hacker News.
- logfromblammo 10y ago
  Never mind pushy. How do rude salespeople even exist? I have never even liked the concept of a salesperson, as distinct from a vendor's point-of-sale clerk. I don't like to haggle; I check competitor prices, and use advertised sales or coupons.
  - dragonwriter 10y ago
    > Never mind pushy. How do rude salespeople even exist? They exist because people who give in to avoid conflict exist, so pushy and rude both, in certain contexts and with certain target audiences, work in sales.
  - WesternStar 10y ago
    If you've never sold its kind of hard to understand but doormats are people who have nothing to offer and who's time isn't valuable. Part of selling things to people is selling yourself. People with high value are allowed to be arrogant and rude , in moderation.

dec0dedab0de 10y ago

or aggressively recruit you by calling you non-stop and using manipulative pressure tactics Wow, you just reminded me of something funny that happened about 15 years ago. A younger friend of mine was interested in tech, and knew I was "good with computers". They had taken some online quiz, and said I should take it. So I took it, and filled out my info thinking I might win something (I was young, and didn't particularly care.) About 15 minutes later I got a phone call from a guy trying to tell me that I was in a dead end job, and that I would never be anything if I didn't go to the school he was pushing. I think I just laughed, and said something snarky like "at least I'm not calling people up selling things." Then about an hour later he called back from another number, and was making fun of my (admittedly awful) band, asking where he could buy tickets. I calmly just told him we would appreciate the support, and gave him our website. He just hung up in a huff, but it was a very weird exchange. In any case, I am very surprised anybody ever buys anything from pushy salespeople. I always immediately equate it to a low quality product, or a business with questionable morals.

Practicality 10y ago
" I am very surprised anybody ever buys anything from pushy salespeople. " Agreed. The irony is the majority of people do. Sadly, most people are irrational > 50% of the time. Sure. They are capable of being rational, but they don't exercise that capability.
- jimbokun 10y ago
  And that doesn't exclude those of us posting on Hacker News.
logfromblammo 10y ago
Never mind pushy. How do rude salespeople even exist? I have never even liked the concept of a salesperson, as distinct from a vendor's point-of-sale clerk. I don't like to haggle; I check competitor prices, and use advertised sales or coupons.
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  > Never mind pushy. How do rude salespeople even exist? They exist because people who give in to avoid conflict exist, so pushy and rude both, in certain contexts and with certain target audiences, work in sales.
- WesternStar 10y ago
  If you've never sold its kind of hard to understand but doormats are people who have nothing to offer and who's time isn't valuable. Part of selling things to people is selling yourself. People with high value are allowed to be arrogant and rude , in moderation.