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Men are disposable. This idea is wired inside the deepest, most primal part our brains. There are a few possible solutions to this. We could evolve ourselves an

Men are disposable. This idea is wired inside the deepest, most primal part our brains. There are a few possible solutions to this. We could evolve ourselves and change our brains. We could tip the gender population ratio in favor of women, so that men would be more sought after. The easiest way to achieve the latter is by simply giving parents the power to choose their kid's gender. Assuming parents are rational agents, they will choose the most valuable gender for their kid, which will bring the genders into an equilibrium.

sevenless 10y ago
You're in luck - India and China have conducted a very large experiment on this already, though not a very ethical one. Unfortunately, it seems parents are not rational agents, and sexist societies will continue to choose male children even when women are scarce, with social turmoil as a consequence. If you really want to fix humanity, I'd advise getting rid of men. Labs can make sperm from stem cells, so there's really no need for us anymore.
- sridca 10y ago
  > sexist societies will continue to choose male children even when women are scarce The preference for a male child over a female child is not limited to what you dub to be 'sexist societies'[1] (thus inadvertently revealing your selective antagonism towards the said societies--India and China). It is actually global phenomenon, the USA included: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_selection#Preference_for_sex_of_child https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_selection#Preference_for_s... > If you really want to fix humanity, I'd advise getting rid of men. This strange advice of yours depends on the fervent belief--a sexist one, I might add--that women are incapable of the wiles of humanity. [1] It would be far more reasonable to suggest instead that this preference is but the other (evolutionary) side of men being the more expendable sex (i.e., the more expendable they are, the more of them need to be birthed to account for their greater number of deaths)
  - sevenless 10y ago
    > This strange advice of yours depends on the fervent belief--a sexist one, I might add--that women are incapable of the wiles of humanity. Are facts sexist? Men tend to be much more violent than women. Nearly all rapes and homicides are committed by men, men are much more accident-prone, and men make up nearly all the fighters in wars. With advances in biological technology, humanity may no longer need men to survive. If we were to re-engineer humanity with harm reduction as a priority - and that is one big 'if', but it's your premise, not mine - there is a case for phasing out males.
    - borkborkbork 10y ago
      I'll just leave this right here: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/04/male_rape_in_america_a_new_study_reveals_that_men_are_sexually_assaulted.html http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/04/male_... For the TL;DR crowd: "In asking 40,000 households about rape and sexual violence, the survey uncovered that 38 percent of incidents were against men." "A recent analysis of BJS data, for example, turned up that 46 percent of male victims reported a female perpetrator." "Women were more likely to be abused by fellow female inmates, and men by guards, and many of those guards were female. For example, of juveniles reporting staff sexual misconduct, 89 percent were boys reporting abuse by a female staff member. In total, inmates reported an astronomical 900,000 incidents of sexual abuse."
    - sridca 10y ago
      > Are facts sexist? No, but yours is not a fact; it is a belief (if it was a fact, it needs no believing in). Your belief is that men are solely responsible for the wiles of humanity, hence your advice being to get rid of them in order to “fix humanity”. > Men tend to be much more violent than women. If--note ‘if’--men tend to be much more violent than women, as you say, it does imply that women are capable of violence. Thus a society of full of women is no solution to fixing the wiles of humanity as their female denizens are still capable of violence. If I may ask? Since both men and women are capable of violence, why not get rid of all humanity?
      - 10y ago
- Kenji 10y ago
  If you really want to fix humanity, I'd advise getting rid of men. Not sure if you're a disgusting sexist or just a troll. Maybe the male suicide rate is up because men have become self-hating and spread misandrist propaganda, instead of taking a human for a human - a being that requires fair treatment and love to stay mentally healthy.
- zizzles 10y ago
  A women-only society would likely collapse within 2 weeks. Technological inventions would vanish in an instant. Mathematics/Engineering/Physics lecture halls would be filled with cobwebs and dust. Law and order would cease to exist. Streets would be piled up with dirt and garbage. If we want to fantasize about the real ideal scenario for humanity: Only high intelligence / high genetic-value males roam the Earth. There will be females too, 10+ for every guy (1:10 ratio) and the females will all be slim, youthful and beautiful, there will not exist any overweight or mouthy-feminist-type social justice warrior abominations we see at every street corner in 2016. There will be no reason to, because life will be pristine for everybody, everything will be working in equilibrium.
  - nyolfen 10y ago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er3vu2IVLjc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er3vu2IVLjc
  - sanderjd 10y ago
    Wow, you're awful!
  - dang 10y ago
    Please don't do this here.
- clevernickname 10y ago
  Aborting all boys is a bit extreme. Instead, what would happen if you systematically disempowered and imprisoned western men in favor of women, over the course of decades? Then, when only "empowered" women and feminine nu-males are left, their hearts will reach out to the poor people of the third world who they will welcome with open arms into their utopian multicultural society free of evil white men. At which point, the (especially in comparison) hyper-masculine immigrants will rape and pillage and destroy everything you tried to create. They won't want to "integrate" and castrate themselves, they'll happily take advantage of your weak, pathetic pushover of a "society" and attempt to turn it into that of their own. At which point, perhaps we will be completely doomed and we will regress into a dark age where opinions like your own will get you beheaded faster than you can say "toxic masculinity." Or perhaps, the real men of your society will rise up to fend them off, and the real women will return to the home to preserve their bloodlines. And in a few generations, if by chance you aren't already paste on the pavement, you and all of your castrated friends will look quite foolish. A generation of non-breeding suicidal idiots that almost killed the only society that would ever accept them. I wonder where I have heard this story before.
  - pixl97 10y ago
    As they say 'When in Rome', I think it ends in 'get sacked by barbarians'.
- reddytowns 10y ago
  Parents in those countries choose male children because male descendants are better for the parents. A girl in these countries is seen as a burden. She must be taken care of, and then hopefully married off, so that the husband will take over the burden. A man on the other hand, is supposed to, by cultural standards, support his parents their whole life. This is something you and the parent poster seem to miss. And also why "getting rid of all men" would probably have the opposite affect on society as you proclaim. Frankly, you're a fucking idiot, and it's about time someone told you that.
- antisthenes 10y ago
  It's interesting that China turned out to be so misandrist in the end. By skewing the gender ratio way towards men, it literally dooms millions of them to be at the bottom of the ladder, pushing them towards crime or suicide. It's no less cruel than female infanticide.

sevenless 10y ago

You're in luck - India and China have conducted a very large experiment on this already, though not a very ethical one. Unfortunately, it seems parents are not rational agents, and sexist societies will continue to choose male children even when women are scarce, with social turmoil as a consequence. If you really want to fix humanity, I'd advise getting rid of men. Labs can make sperm from stem cells, so there's really no need for us anymore.

sridca 10y ago
> sexist societies will continue to choose male children even when women are scarce The preference for a male child over a female child is not limited to what you dub to be 'sexist societies'[1] (thus inadvertently revealing your selective antagonism towards the said societies--India and China). It is actually global phenomenon, the USA included: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_selection#Preference_for_sex_of_child https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_selection#Preference_for_s... > If you really want to fix humanity, I'd advise getting rid of men. This strange advice of yours depends on the fervent belief--a sexist one, I might add--that women are incapable of the wiles of humanity. [1] It would be far more reasonable to suggest instead that this preference is but the other (evolutionary) side of men being the more expendable sex (i.e., the more expendable they are, the more of them need to be birthed to account for their greater number of deaths)
- sevenless 10y ago
  > This strange advice of yours depends on the fervent belief--a sexist one, I might add--that women are incapable of the wiles of humanity. Are facts sexist? Men tend to be much more violent than women. Nearly all rapes and homicides are committed by men, men are much more accident-prone, and men make up nearly all the fighters in wars. With advances in biological technology, humanity may no longer need men to survive. If we were to re-engineer humanity with harm reduction as a priority - and that is one big 'if', but it's your premise, not mine - there is a case for phasing out males.
  - borkborkbork 10y ago
    I'll just leave this right here: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/04/male_rape_in_america_a_new_study_reveals_that_men_are_sexually_assaulted.html http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/04/male_... For the TL;DR crowd: "In asking 40,000 households about rape and sexual violence, the survey uncovered that 38 percent of incidents were against men." "A recent analysis of BJS data, for example, turned up that 46 percent of male victims reported a female perpetrator." "Women were more likely to be abused by fellow female inmates, and men by guards, and many of those guards were female. For example, of juveniles reporting staff sexual misconduct, 89 percent were boys reporting abuse by a female staff member. In total, inmates reported an astronomical 900,000 incidents of sexual abuse."
  - sridca 10y ago
    > Are facts sexist? No, but yours is not a fact; it is a belief (if it was a fact, it needs no believing in). Your belief is that men are solely responsible for the wiles of humanity, hence your advice being to get rid of them in order to “fix humanity”. > Men tend to be much more violent than women. If--note ‘if’--men tend to be much more violent than women, as you say, it does imply that women are capable of violence. Thus a society of full of women is no solution to fixing the wiles of humanity as their female denizens are still capable of violence. If I may ask? Since both men and women are capable of violence, why not get rid of all humanity?
    - 10y ago
Kenji 10y ago
If you really want to fix humanity, I'd advise getting rid of men. Not sure if you're a disgusting sexist or just a troll. Maybe the male suicide rate is up because men have become self-hating and spread misandrist propaganda, instead of taking a human for a human - a being that requires fair treatment and love to stay mentally healthy.
zizzles 10y ago
A women-only society would likely collapse within 2 weeks. Technological inventions would vanish in an instant. Mathematics/Engineering/Physics lecture halls would be filled with cobwebs and dust. Law and order would cease to exist. Streets would be piled up with dirt and garbage. If we want to fantasize about the real ideal scenario for humanity: Only high intelligence / high genetic-value males roam the Earth. There will be females too, 10+ for every guy (1:10 ratio) and the females will all be slim, youthful and beautiful, there will not exist any overweight or mouthy-feminist-type social justice warrior abominations we see at every street corner in 2016. There will be no reason to, because life will be pristine for everybody, everything will be working in equilibrium.
- nyolfen 10y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er3vu2IVLjc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er3vu2IVLjc
- sanderjd 10y ago
  Wow, you're awful!
- dang 10y ago
  Please don't do this here.
clevernickname 10y ago
Aborting all boys is a bit extreme. Instead, what would happen if you systematically disempowered and imprisoned western men in favor of women, over the course of decades? Then, when only "empowered" women and feminine nu-males are left, their hearts will reach out to the poor people of the third world who they will welcome with open arms into their utopian multicultural society free of evil white men. At which point, the (especially in comparison) hyper-masculine immigrants will rape and pillage and destroy everything you tried to create. They won't want to "integrate" and castrate themselves, they'll happily take advantage of your weak, pathetic pushover of a "society" and attempt to turn it into that of their own. At which point, perhaps we will be completely doomed and we will regress into a dark age where opinions like your own will get you beheaded faster than you can say "toxic masculinity." Or perhaps, the real men of your society will rise up to fend them off, and the real women will return to the home to preserve their bloodlines. And in a few generations, if by chance you aren't already paste on the pavement, you and all of your castrated friends will look quite foolish. A generation of non-breeding suicidal idiots that almost killed the only society that would ever accept them. I wonder where I have heard this story before.
- pixl97 10y ago
  As they say 'When in Rome', I think it ends in 'get sacked by barbarians'.
reddytowns 10y ago
Parents in those countries choose male children because male descendants are better for the parents. A girl in these countries is seen as a burden. She must be taken care of, and then hopefully married off, so that the husband will take over the burden. A man on the other hand, is supposed to, by cultural standards, support his parents their whole life. This is something you and the parent poster seem to miss. And also why "getting rid of all men" would probably have the opposite affect on society as you proclaim. Frankly, you're a fucking idiot, and it's about time someone told you that.
antisthenes 10y ago
It's interesting that China turned out to be so misandrist in the end. By skewing the gender ratio way towards men, it literally dooms millions of them to be at the bottom of the ladder, pushing them towards crime or suicide. It's no less cruel than female infanticide.