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Lightning Strike Kills More Than 300 Reindeer in Norway
- sandworm101 10y agoWait a second. Anyone else see the 'The Tick' pilot? Wasn't this the opening sequence, Superion falling to earth and killing a bunch of reindeer? That aside, this must have been one heck of a lightning bolt. I've been within few meters of one with no ill effect. It must have been nothing compared to this monster. Or could it have been several bolts?
- shshhdhs 10y agoWhy is this on HN?
- meira 10y agoIt's part of the mainstream invasion. HN is now MN: Mainstream News. They even don't need to be 'hackish' anymore.
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- glaberficken 10y agoThis is why I come to HN. There are a lot of websites out there that gratify one's intellectual curiosity, but none with the same "human filter" and comment quality.
- serg_chernata 10y agoI'd say this falls within "science".
- hossbeast 10y agoBecause who knew lightning could kill 300 reindeer at once?
- jsmthrowaway 10y agoNow that it's happened and we've observed it, it makes me wonder how many times such an event has happened throughout history and how improbable it actually is. I've only ever thought about lightning killing a single creature until just now.
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- PedroBatista 10y agoor maybe they were in a cult.
- IIAOPSW 10y agoThis is the worst mass death in Norway in 5 years.
- Scaevolus 10y agoDetecting lightning automatically isn't that hard-- it's a sudden burst of powerful, wideband static. There are several sites where users collaboratively trilaterate lighting strikes by sharing precise time-of-arrival data-- including live maps! http://en.blitzortung.org/live_dynamic_maps.php?map=11 http://en.blitzortung.org/live_dynamic_maps.php?map=11 The process is fast enough that in a thunderstorm, you'll probably get a packet specifying the lightning's coordinates before you hear the thunder! Here's what the storm looked like: http://i.imgur.com/mkIqnlD.gif http://i.imgur.com/mkIqnlD.gif
- Udik 10y agoYou do, and on lightningmaps.org you can even watch on the map the thunder front traveling at the speed of sound. Disappointingly, though, it appears that the lightnings positioning isn't reliable enough to actually predict when you'll be reached by the thunder, let alone go out there and look for a nice piece of fulgurite!
- thaumasiotes 10y agoDo what the guy does in Sweet Home Alabama: go off into the wilderness, put up some big metal rods, and after a thunderstorm check the rods for lightning strikes.
- buro9 10y agoOr go build your own lightning field like Walter de Maria https://artappreciation101.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/demaria_the-lightning-field-19771.jpg https://artappreciation101.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/demar... https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2013/jul/29/walter-de-maria-art-lightning https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2... Of which there is a great description if Geoff Dyer's latest book White Sands.
- ablation 10y agoIs that actually the thunder front travelling at the speed of sound? My understanding of how Blitzortung works (and similar sites like Lightningmaps.org) is that animation was just a visual cue to draw the eye rather than trying to replicate the time between a strike and the sound.
- huhtenberg 10y agoMusic in the video really ties it together, but they really should've dropped the bass when switching to the aerial footage.
- Loic 10y agoI can remember a similar event in the Alps in France. What was interesting (it was with cows) is that only the cows showing or turning their back to the lightning strike were killed. It was because of the potential difference between the front and back legs (you have more than 1m), the ground resistance was higher than the wet cow and the current just went through the cow. When the cows were not facing (or back) the strike, the ground resistance was lower, the current did not went through the cows. So, if you are wet, in the mountains and lightning strikes are firing, make small steps :)
- saiya-jin 10y agothis is a basic advice on any electrical course I had to go through. if things get really hairy, you should only jump around with both feet together, and have arms close to the body (not so easy somewhere on the wilderness)
- sharpercoder 10y agoGiven the chance to outrun lightning, running with only zero or one feet on the ground would also prevent strikes.
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- crististm 10y agoWhere do you get this idea? When lighting is kilometers long, half a meter more is not a lot to cover.
- mhb 10y agoStep potential: http://www.esgroundingsolutions.com/what-is-step-and-touch-potential/ http://www.esgroundingsolutions.com/what-is-step-and-touch-p...
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- f_allwein 10y ago"They were standing on a hill, moving up that hill." Bad idea in a thunderstorm. It is recommended to stay in low-lying areas instead: http://www.wildbackpacker.com/wilderness-survival/articles/surviving-a-lightning-storm/ http://www.wildbackpacker.com/wilderness-survival/articles/s...
- lagadu 10y agoTechnically true but teaching that to reindeer may be something of a challenge :)
- karmapolice 10y agoThey just learned by natural selection :)
- classicsnoot 10y agoIANAB, but lately i have been thinking a lot about evolution and how it changes a species. The context i am considering is social evolution, but i think the rules of biological evolution apply. From what i understand, Reindeer have learned nothing from the event in general. In the localized area, a bunch of Reindeer are out of the gene pool and any of their kin that are close enough to encounter their carcasses but not the the cause are going to freely associate the deaths with whatever the perception sensory suite allows. My assertion: Evolutionary "learning" occurs over a long period of time through strings of events with similar inputs and outputs. Not an argument or rebuttal; your comment made me think about it. :]
- pop8row9 10y agoI don't think there's anything wrong with refutations of pop-science. Thanks for posting.
- karmapolice 10y agoNah, I was just kidding. Unless there are similar events occurring during a lot of time, making those reindeers that prefer staying more separated and in lower areas have a significant advantage, and these preferences are hereditary...
- digi_owl 10y agoI can't shake the feel that the thunderstorms have gotten stronger in recent years.
- prophesi 10y agoI'm probably a terrible person for this, but my first thought was: http://media-dominaria.cursecdn.com/attachments/104/60/635032499431831568.jpg http://media-dominaria.cursecdn.com/attachments/104/60/63503...
- liotier 10y agoAn recently, in July: 1500 reindeer dead, 40 humans hospitalized amid anthrax outbreak in Siberia - https://news.vice.com/article/reindeer-dead-humans-hospitalized-anthrax-outbreak-russia-siberia https://news.vice.com/article/reindeer-dead-humans-hospitali...
- tke248 10y agoI wonder if this ever happened to ancient armies
- agentgt 10y agoNot to sound to heartless but I wonder if the animals will be taken for meat, buried, or nothing done at all (ie left for nature). What normally happens in these situations?
- halfdan 10y agoLiterally the last sentence in the article: > "The normal routine in such cases is to let nature take its course."
- agentgt 10y agoHow embarrassing! I must have coalesced that last paragraph with the advertisement and missed it.
- MrTolkinghorn 10y agoNothing really can be done for the meat. Meat needs to be allowed to cool, rapidly, or it spoils. That's why field dressing deer is so important. You remove the guts and core of the animal to lower the temperature of the meat as quickly as possible. So if the meat has been sitting for even half a day it's long gone.
- Broken_Hippo 10y agoI had the same thought at first. Weirdly, I'm more curious if this was a herd that someone laid claim to or the more wild sort of reindeer. Mostly because if it is a persons or group's herd, they just lost a good amount of meat and income.