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Max most of your comments here are well thought out and argued (I don't always agree with you), but unless you are an investor or employee what does it really m

Max most of your comments here are well thought out and argued (I don't always agree with you), but unless you are an investor or employee what does it really matter if Peach succeeds or fails? I also thought Peach would go nowhere (not much sign of 10x), but I kept my opinion to myself as I had nothing productive to add.

Dylan16807 10y ago
That removes half the point of this site if we don't talk about where startups are going to go. People like to talk about things? I don't know how to answer your question better than that.
- danieltillett 10y ago
  I think it is fine to talk about startups and even criticise them when you have something constructive to say. In the case of Peach I had literally nothing to add that was constructive so I kept my opinion of it to myself.
  - Dylan16807 10y ago
    Building an accurate assessment of whether it's going to succeed is one of the most productive things that can be said about a startup.
    - dang 10y ago
      Such assessments are notoriously inaccurate, except in the trivial sense that we all know most startups won't succeed.
minimaxir 10y ago
The original article elaborates on this more; I just paraphrased it here for convenience. Peach's success/failure, like that of all startups, is a valuable data point. As I said in the original article: the startup world is in dire need of cautionary tales as valuations inflate to absurd levels. The reason I wrote an article on Peach in particular was that the hype was an outlier of weirdness and I wanted to take a closer look for my own curiosity.
blackguardx 10y ago
I've discovered that some people are annoyed at a project merely existing. Criticism is great, but it is best not to listen to people who have nothing to add other than seeing your project as "pointless."
- danieltillett 10y ago
  Criticism needs to be constructive which is surprisingly hard to give well. It is a real art to do this well so it actually helps the person receiving the criticism.

Dylan16807 10y ago

That removes half the point of this site if we don't talk about where startups are going to go. People like to talk about things? I don't know how to answer your question better than that.

danieltillett 10y ago
I think it is fine to talk about startups and even criticise them when you have something constructive to say. In the case of Peach I had literally nothing to add that was constructive so I kept my opinion of it to myself.
- Dylan16807 10y ago
  Building an accurate assessment of whether it's going to succeed is one of the most productive things that can be said about a startup.
  - dang 10y ago
    Such assessments are notoriously inaccurate, except in the trivial sense that we all know most startups won't succeed.

minimaxir 10y ago

The original article elaborates on this more; I just paraphrased it here for convenience. Peach's success/failure, like that of all startups, is a valuable data point. As I said in the original article: the startup world is in dire need of cautionary tales as valuations inflate to absurd levels. The reason I wrote an article on Peach in particular was that the hype was an outlier of weirdness and I wanted to take a closer look for my own curiosity.

blackguardx 10y ago

I've discovered that some people are annoyed at a project merely existing. Criticism is great, but it is best not to listen to people who have nothing to add other than seeing your project as "pointless."

danieltillett 10y ago
Criticism needs to be constructive which is surprisingly hard to give well. It is a real art to do this well so it actually helps the person receiving the criticism.