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That seems pretty damning to me personally, but I'm not a statistician. It's also something I would never think could give an advantage, but I guess it makes se

by Vexs 10y ago

That seems pretty damning to me personally, but I'm not a statistician. It's also something I would never think could give an advantage, but I guess it makes sense that it would, especially with some of these finishes that are within tenths of a second. Wouldn't be surprising either, the Rio Olympics as a whole seem to be a mess, and I doubt most pool builders even consider it.

diego_moita 10y ago
> the Rio Olympics as a whole seem to be a mess, As a Brazilian let me ask this: because Munich 72 and Atlanta 96 where so much better ? (hint: no terrorism in Rio)
- whack 10y ago
  Not sure why Diego is being downvoted so much, when parent who made an equally incendiary comment wasn't. Many respected "first world" journalists have also commented on the same pattern of people from richer countries condescending to poorer countries that host the Olympics. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/16/opinion/brazils-uplifting-olympics.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/16/opinion/brazils-uplifting-...
  - tedunangst 10y ago
    Black September attacking the Olympic village was a less predictable event than many of the problems occurring in Rio, like chlorinating the diving pool with the wrong chemicals.
  - Dylan16807 10y ago
    >Not sure why Diego is being downvoted so much, when parent who made an equally incendiary comment wasn't. Because "tu quoque" is a lot more obnoxious than just calling something bad.
- drivingmenuts 10y ago
  Apples to oranges. Both incidents you cite were third-parties directly trying to stage political disruptions by causing death and destruction. Rio is the government and other sponsors just plain failing to follow thru on commitments.
  - diego_moita 10y ago
    This is plain and simple prejudice and bullshit. The government has been following thru on commitments. * When Rio was announced people said the venues wouldn't be ready on time. They were. * When zika broke out people predicted an Olympic pandemic. Then came southern hemisphere winter and you're more likely to get zika in Florida than Rio. * When media discovered pollution in Guanabara Bay people asked for cancellation of events out of health concerns. No event was cancelled and no evidence of health hazards. * when a chemical imbalance turned a swimming pool green people called for cancellation. It turned out to be harmless algae. * when American swimmers claimed to be robbed a media uproar denounced a security chaos. Turns out they lied to hide a visit to a brothel. All of this is a continuation of a pattern. Rich countries freaked out with the Olympics in Beijing and Sochi too. Rio would have to endure the same.
    - rbritton 10y ago
      > * when American swimmers claimed to be robbed a media uproar denounced a security chaos. Turns out they lied to hide a visit to a brothel. Do you have a reference for this? I'm aware of the inconsistencies with the stories in this situation, but I've never seen a brothel mentioned anywhere.
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      - no_cake 10y ago
        I believe he is talking about this. Still, no brothel mentioned. http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/olympics/2016/08/18/lochte-teammates-meet-authorities-over-reported-robbery/88943016/ http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/olympics/2016/08/18/...
- shostack 10y ago
  I think there are a lot of differences here in terms of the level of blatant corruption, extreme disrespect shown by the Brazilian fans, insane crime reports, Zika, etc. There's a reason the /r/apocalympics subteddit is so popular.
  - diego_moita 10y ago
    > extreme disrespect shown by the Brazilian fans, insane crime reports, Zika, etc. Bullshit. There's more zika in Florida now than in Rio. There's more crime now in Detroit, New Orleans, St. Louis and Baltimore than Rio. And your "etc" was used for Beijing and Sochi too. This is just rich countries' snobbery. > There's a reason the /r/apocalympics subteddit is so popular. Yes, it is the fact that every subredit is a virtual linch mob or, as they say there, a circlejerk.
  - hamax 10y ago
    Apocalympics subreddit is so popular because people really like to feel superior.
- maxerickson 10y ago
  no terrorism in Rio You must not be a bathroom door.
- dominotw 10y ago
  I think they were great. Brazil did a great job given the circumstances. Boo-ing was the only thing that could have been totally avoided.
  - goodcanadian 10y ago
    I'm no expert, but it seems to me that the booing is mostly down to different cultural expectations (i.e. Brazilians don't necessarily see it as disrespectful): http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37026844 http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37026844
- falsestprophet 10y ago
  Not having a terror attack is a pretty low bar.
  - cylinder 10y ago
    One Atlanta could not meet.
madcorgi 10y ago
50 m freestyle final. Manaudou, defending champion, came second to Ervin (previously gold medalist in the event) by 0.01. Ervin was in a more favorable lane according to the data (in 3 against Manaudou's 4). In such a short distance, the tiniest advantage becomes massive!
Spooky23 10y ago
The trains seem to be running on time. The feeling of messiness is generated by the vapid NBC coverage. The coverage of sports is so poor, I imagine that other, non-core coverage is garbage as well.

by Vexs 10y ago

diego_moita 10y ago

> the Rio Olympics as a whole seem to be a mess, As a Brazilian let me ask this: because Munich 72 and Atlanta 96 where so much better ? (hint: no terrorism in Rio)

whack 10y ago
Not sure why Diego is being downvoted so much, when parent who made an equally incendiary comment wasn't. Many respected "first world" journalists have also commented on the same pattern of people from richer countries condescending to poorer countries that host the Olympics. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/16/opinion/brazils-uplifting-olympics.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/16/opinion/brazils-uplifting-...
- tedunangst 10y ago
  Black September attacking the Olympic village was a less predictable event than many of the problems occurring in Rio, like chlorinating the diving pool with the wrong chemicals.
- Dylan16807 10y ago
  >Not sure why Diego is being downvoted so much, when parent who made an equally incendiary comment wasn't. Because "tu quoque" is a lot more obnoxious than just calling something bad.
drivingmenuts 10y ago
Apples to oranges. Both incidents you cite were third-parties directly trying to stage political disruptions by causing death and destruction. Rio is the government and other sponsors just plain failing to follow thru on commitments.
- diego_moita 10y ago
  This is plain and simple prejudice and bullshit. The government has been following thru on commitments. * When Rio was announced people said the venues wouldn't be ready on time. They were. * When zika broke out people predicted an Olympic pandemic. Then came southern hemisphere winter and you're more likely to get zika in Florida than Rio. * When media discovered pollution in Guanabara Bay people asked for cancellation of events out of health concerns. No event was cancelled and no evidence of health hazards. * when a chemical imbalance turned a swimming pool green people called for cancellation. It turned out to be harmless algae. * when American swimmers claimed to be robbed a media uproar denounced a security chaos. Turns out they lied to hide a visit to a brothel. All of this is a continuation of a pattern. Rich countries freaked out with the Olympics in Beijing and Sochi too. Rio would have to endure the same.
  - rbritton 10y ago
    > * when American swimmers claimed to be robbed a media uproar denounced a security chaos. Turns out they lied to hide a visit to a brothel. Do you have a reference for this? I'm aware of the inconsistencies with the stories in this situation, but I've never seen a brothel mentioned anywhere.
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    - no_cake 10y ago
      I believe he is talking about this. Still, no brothel mentioned. http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/olympics/2016/08/18/lochte-teammates-meet-authorities-over-reported-robbery/88943016/ http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/olympics/2016/08/18/...
shostack 10y ago
I think there are a lot of differences here in terms of the level of blatant corruption, extreme disrespect shown by the Brazilian fans, insane crime reports, Zika, etc. There's a reason the /r/apocalympics subteddit is so popular.
- diego_moita 10y ago
  > extreme disrespect shown by the Brazilian fans, insane crime reports, Zika, etc. Bullshit. There's more zika in Florida now than in Rio. There's more crime now in Detroit, New Orleans, St. Louis and Baltimore than Rio. And your "etc" was used for Beijing and Sochi too. This is just rich countries' snobbery. > There's a reason the /r/apocalympics subteddit is so popular. Yes, it is the fact that every subredit is a virtual linch mob or, as they say there, a circlejerk.
- hamax 10y ago
  Apocalympics subreddit is so popular because people really like to feel superior.
maxerickson 10y ago
no terrorism in Rio You must not be a bathroom door.
dominotw 10y ago
I think they were great. Brazil did a great job given the circumstances. Boo-ing was the only thing that could have been totally avoided.
- goodcanadian 10y ago
  I'm no expert, but it seems to me that the booing is mostly down to different cultural expectations (i.e. Brazilians don't necessarily see it as disrespectful): http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37026844 http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37026844
falsestprophet 10y ago
Not having a terror attack is a pretty low bar.
- cylinder 10y ago
  One Atlanta could not meet.

madcorgi 10y ago

50 m freestyle final. Manaudou, defending champion, came second to Ervin (previously gold medalist in the event) by 0.01. Ervin was in a more favorable lane according to the data (in 3 against Manaudou's 4). In such a short distance, the tiniest advantage becomes massive!

Spooky23 10y ago

The trains seem to be running on time. The feeling of messiness is generated by the vapid NBC coverage. The coverage of sports is so poor, I imagine that other, non-core coverage is garbage as well.