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> all new deployments must be on Openstack you have my sympathies

• hueving 10y ago
  Better that then yet more money funneling into the pockets of the big cloud companies.
  • karma_vaccum123 10y ago
    How so? Most of the OpenStack stewards are as stodgy and corporate...
    • hueving 10y ago
      OpenStack is open source. It can be forked, modified, whatever. Let me know when you manage to build your own AWS cloud with Amazon's software and then I'll entertain the thought that they are comparable.
  • bogomipz 10y ago
    Its not about money funneling into the pockets of the big cloud providers, its about engineering hours being better spent. Openstack is bit of a mess.
    • majewsky 10y ago
      Absolutely. I'm still waiting for any two things in OpenStack to be consistent with each other. Related: My compilation of OpenStack rage tweets. https://twitter.com/search?q=@stefanmajewsky%20#openstack&src=typd https://twitter.com/search?q=@stefanmajewsky%20#openstack&sr...
      • hueving 10y ago
        Link just takes me to your twitter profile. I suspect if you can't correctly paste a link, you can't use openstack. :P
        • majewsky 10y ago
          Gah, Twitter. Correct link: https://twitter.com/search?q=@stefanmajewsky%20%23openstack&src=typd https://twitter.com/search?q=@stefanmajewsky%20%23openstack&...
• the_duke 10y ago
  What's so bad about OpenStack?
  • im_down_w_otp 10y ago
    What's good about it? It's a bunch of different dumpster fires created by a bunch of committees across a bunch of companies which mostly compete with each other, and as such have no real incentive or motivation to have it all work well together even if they had the ability to, and the ability alone is seriously in question.
  • karma_vaccum123 10y ago
    The Vision: a community-managed set of integrated tools that let you create a featureful cloud on hardware you control. The Reality: a bunch of python scripts everyone forks.. committee politics...frustration OpenStack is a great example of going "community" before the problem is well understood or there is a solution people trust. It's basically a tire fire at this point and most of the community participants are market losers.
    • Rapzid 10y ago
      Substitute Python for bash and I get the same sense from Kubernetes.. I'm not sure it's fair to say "before the problem is well understood... But maybe. Whatever Google had going on internally Kubernetes is very much figuring it out along the way at almost every level. If you are wanting to use on AWS then you have kops, kube-up, hyperkube, protokube; a dizzying, un-approachable and interconnected ecosystem of launch scripts/programs. Very strange interop decisions with AWS, but hard to fault because it's darn near one person trying to manage all AWS integrations.
      • berdario 10y ago
        bash? Isn't Kubernetes predominantly Golang based?
      • bogomipz 10y ago
        "Substitute Python for bash and I get the same sense from Kubernetes" Huh? Kubernetes is written in Golang.
• yardie 10y ago
  I tried to use OpenStack 4 years in our new PaaS product. I ended up pulling it and using the regular, well baked tools built into our managed hardware. I see much hasn't changed in those intervening years.
  • hueving 10y ago
    >I see much hasn't changed in those intervening years. Source?