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Full Disclosure: I really like Discord, and use Twitch daily. Discord has more easily manageable chat roles, eg: Moderator, Helper, Regular, Supporter, etc. T

by mc42 10y ago

Full Disclosure: I really like Discord, and use Twitch daily. Discord has more easily manageable chat roles, eg: Moderator, Helper, Regular, Supporter, etc. Twitch chat is nothing more than simple IRC, and relies almost entirely on bots for the more complicated stuff. Discord also has voice chat built in, whereas Twitch has none for their chatters. Discord also has a better documented API and libraries in a lot of languages. Overall, Discord (despite using an electron app...) is simply a better chatting product.

jamie_ca 10y ago
"despite being an electron app", I'm way happier using Discord than I am using either Hipchat or Skype. Discord is a really well-put-together app, has text and voice chat that do their jobs, and get out of the way. The only complaint I have is that there's little to no support for searching history, but for an app focusing on live "community" chats, that seems a reasonable compromise.
- rev087 10y ago
  I'm on the same boat, the only complaint being the lack of history search. And I like Discord so much that I switched our office from Hipchat to Discord, despite it being exclusively marketed towards gamers. We have been completely happy with the switch, in special the ability to hop into voice chat with remote coworkers with one mouse click.
  - b1naryth1ef 10y ago
    (Discord Dev here) Awesome to hear Discords a good fit for workplace environments too, we've heard a couple success stories around remote teams swapping. Search is a huge priority for us, but its also something we wanna spend time getting right. e.g. soon!
    - jamra 10y ago
      This is a long shot, but if you could sign a HIPPA waver, I could convince the bureaucrats at my workplace to jump in.
      - quxbar 10y ago
        Ditto to this!
      - b1naryth1ef 10y ago
        Drop me a line (andrei @ discordapp.com) and I'll at least take a look.
    - scrollaway 10y ago
      Remote startup checking in here - we're in the gaming industry and Discord has been a perfect fit for us. We love it. Our top "wanted" features right now are video chat/screenshare, so that we can drop Hangouts entirely, and search. We wish we could pay you guys. Seriously.
    - boundlessdreamz 10y ago
      I haven't used Discord but if it's better than Slack you are sitting on a huge opportunity. I know your focus is gamers but the market Slack is targeting is huge. Their mobile app is garbage (at least on android). Always 'reconnecting'. Doesn't keep the recent chats offline and has to always fetch it from server. Missing/delayed notifications. Desktop app on OS X is better but it too has 'connection issues'. It looks like we will be able to use Discord when you add search. Seriously, tell the management to think about it being an alternative to Slack. We are a paying Slack customer and while they are better than hipchat/IRC, it is far from perfect.
      - NTripleOne 10y ago
        I've said it before and I'll say it a thousand times more, a 'business-oriented' rebrand of discord (basically ditch all the gamery shit and allow people to host their own servers on their own hardware) would basically be pure profit.
- mc42 10y ago
  I stated that transparently just to say that it was one, not that it isn't a well done one. I actually am running a Canary build for Linux of Discord and have had almost no issues with it, and any problems have been fixed very transparently.
- imtringued 10y ago
  I don't like browser based desktop apps. They have all the disadvantages of native apps but lose most advantages of HTML5 apps by being platform specific (apparently these is no discord desktop for linux) and require you to download an entire browser engine along with your app. You have to install them as opposed to just visiting an URL. They are not as lightweight as conventional desktop applications and don't perform as well. I'd rather see the browser getting more powerful. The cat is out of the bag already. If they're going to use a browser anyway, why can't they just run in my browser of choice along with all the other websites?
  - JasonSage 10y ago
    > apparently these is no discord desktop for linux The Discord developers are working on this. It's not just web components but also native dependencies as well, so it's understandable I think if the Linux version comes in a little bit behind macOS and Windows versions where the majority of the gamer market is. Next up, I'm starting to like when companies use desktop HTML5 apps. HTML and JavaScript does enable developers to move quickly with their interfaces, and I find them to be generally much more well-kept than native counterparts, where there's more inertia in making interface changes. A good comparison gamers will be familiar with is Steam. The Steam UI is written in a valve-proprietary, CSS-like language that I imagine is less performant than CSS. It's also REALLY buggy, so much so that I'm surprised that Valve has not already moved to an Electron app for Steam. If they did they'd be able to iterate quickly on interface improvements which they certainly don't do now.
  - amadeus 10y ago
    Disclosure: I'm a Discord developer. Discord works in a browser or with the native apps. Just visit the website and click 'Open Discord in your browser'
mbesto 10y ago
Discord is also arguably a better implementation for team chat than Slack. Being able to jump in a room and have audio session out of the box alone is huge advantage compared to Slack.
- meowface 10y ago
  Discord is by far the best communication app I've used. For chat and for voice.
- gduplessy 10y ago
  I'm pretty sure that's a feature in slack, used it just yesterday actually
kuschku 10y ago
> Discord also has a better documented API and libraries in a lot of languages. Overall, Discord (despite using an electron app...) is simply a better chatting product. Better documented APIs and libraries than IRC? That’s not just quite a stretch, it’s literally a lie. There’s IRC libs in every language you can imagine, usually dozens per language, with many perfectly documented ones, for every possible purpose. And about all of them work for Twitch chat.
- makomk 10y ago
  IRC libraries are often gnarly and quirky at the best of times, and Twitch isn't all that close to standard IRC and never has been (plus, they've changed their proprietary extensions in non-backwards-compatible ways from time to time).

by mc42 10y ago

jamie_ca 10y ago

"despite being an electron app", I'm way happier using Discord than I am using either Hipchat or Skype. Discord is a really well-put-together app, has text and voice chat that do their jobs, and get out of the way. The only complaint I have is that there's little to no support for searching history, but for an app focusing on live "community" chats, that seems a reasonable compromise.

rev087 10y ago
I'm on the same boat, the only complaint being the lack of history search. And I like Discord so much that I switched our office from Hipchat to Discord, despite it being exclusively marketed towards gamers. We have been completely happy with the switch, in special the ability to hop into voice chat with remote coworkers with one mouse click.
- b1naryth1ef 10y ago
  (Discord Dev here) Awesome to hear Discords a good fit for workplace environments too, we've heard a couple success stories around remote teams swapping. Search is a huge priority for us, but its also something we wanna spend time getting right. e.g. soon!
  - jamra 10y ago
    This is a long shot, but if you could sign a HIPPA waver, I could convince the bureaucrats at my workplace to jump in.
    - quxbar 10y ago
      Ditto to this!
    - b1naryth1ef 10y ago
      Drop me a line (andrei @ discordapp.com) and I'll at least take a look.
  - scrollaway 10y ago
    Remote startup checking in here - we're in the gaming industry and Discord has been a perfect fit for us. We love it. Our top "wanted" features right now are video chat/screenshare, so that we can drop Hangouts entirely, and search. We wish we could pay you guys. Seriously.
  - boundlessdreamz 10y ago
    I haven't used Discord but if it's better than Slack you are sitting on a huge opportunity. I know your focus is gamers but the market Slack is targeting is huge. Their mobile app is garbage (at least on android). Always 'reconnecting'. Doesn't keep the recent chats offline and has to always fetch it from server. Missing/delayed notifications. Desktop app on OS X is better but it too has 'connection issues'. It looks like we will be able to use Discord when you add search. Seriously, tell the management to think about it being an alternative to Slack. We are a paying Slack customer and while they are better than hipchat/IRC, it is far from perfect.
    - NTripleOne 10y ago
      I've said it before and I'll say it a thousand times more, a 'business-oriented' rebrand of discord (basically ditch all the gamery shit and allow people to host their own servers on their own hardware) would basically be pure profit.
mc42 10y ago
I stated that transparently just to say that it was one, not that it isn't a well done one. I actually am running a Canary build for Linux of Discord and have had almost no issues with it, and any problems have been fixed very transparently.
imtringued 10y ago
I don't like browser based desktop apps. They have all the disadvantages of native apps but lose most advantages of HTML5 apps by being platform specific (apparently these is no discord desktop for linux) and require you to download an entire browser engine along with your app. You have to install them as opposed to just visiting an URL. They are not as lightweight as conventional desktop applications and don't perform as well. I'd rather see the browser getting more powerful. The cat is out of the bag already. If they're going to use a browser anyway, why can't they just run in my browser of choice along with all the other websites?
- JasonSage 10y ago
  > apparently these is no discord desktop for linux The Discord developers are working on this. It's not just web components but also native dependencies as well, so it's understandable I think if the Linux version comes in a little bit behind macOS and Windows versions where the majority of the gamer market is. Next up, I'm starting to like when companies use desktop HTML5 apps. HTML and JavaScript does enable developers to move quickly with their interfaces, and I find them to be generally much more well-kept than native counterparts, where there's more inertia in making interface changes. A good comparison gamers will be familiar with is Steam. The Steam UI is written in a valve-proprietary, CSS-like language that I imagine is less performant than CSS. It's also REALLY buggy, so much so that I'm surprised that Valve has not already moved to an Electron app for Steam. If they did they'd be able to iterate quickly on interface improvements which they certainly don't do now.
- amadeus 10y ago
  Disclosure: I'm a Discord developer. Discord works in a browser or with the native apps. Just visit the website and click 'Open Discord in your browser'

mbesto 10y ago

Discord is also arguably a better implementation for team chat than Slack. Being able to jump in a room and have audio session out of the box alone is huge advantage compared to Slack.

meowface 10y ago
Discord is by far the best communication app I've used. For chat and for voice.
gduplessy 10y ago
I'm pretty sure that's a feature in slack, used it just yesterday actually

kuschku 10y ago

> Discord also has a better documented API and libraries in a lot of languages. Overall, Discord (despite using an electron app...) is simply a better chatting product. Better documented APIs and libraries than IRC? That’s not just quite a stretch, it’s literally a lie. There’s IRC libs in every language you can imagine, usually dozens per language, with many perfectly documented ones, for every possible purpose. And about all of them work for Twitch chat.

makomk 10y ago
IRC libraries are often gnarly and quirky at the best of times, and Twitch isn't all that close to standard IRC and never has been (plus, they've changed their proprietary extensions in non-backwards-compatible ways from time to time).