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See this discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12107688 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12107688

• e12e 10y ago
  In particular this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12109727 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12109727 about some hard-to-find tools that help with Microsoft mail (Live.com / outlook.com / hotmail.com etc). There may have been some similar strange link for Gmail - i only have access to my phone right now, so I can't check my notes. I believe that was the thing I was missing from my setup (and it was frustrating to debug as mail simply disappeared). Between a (for now) cacert-certificate (which I think is treated as "self-signed" for most purposes) and SPF - both Google and MS appear to accept my mail. I've turned off ipv6 - if you want it, it might take some extra work. I'm planning to move to opensmtp "when I have time" and maybe dbmail for the store - now I'm on exim and dovecot. I get little spam - I do have greylisting set up. What I get is generally to emails leaked in the linked-in and Adobe attacks. I should change those addresses, and reject/black hole the old ones. But for now it's manageable - and is filtered out in my "misc" folder by simple address-basrd filtering (exim .forward file) (I generally give each site a different mail, se eg my hn profile).