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You're a one man spam army on this idea of Google hosting a WikiLeaks mirror... Not to say it's not a good idea, but I don't think this is the place for such p

You're a one man spam army on this idea of Google hosting a WikiLeaks mirror... Not to say it's not a good idea, but I don't think this is the place for such pestering.

grandalf 17y ago
haha... Well I feel sort of bad doing it b/c I love google... I just think it needs to be pointed out. It might help people realize a) the silliness of Google pretending to be fighting censorship and b) that they should donate to wikileaks.
- sgift 17y ago
  "Nor can we accept government or corporate funding and maintain our absolute integrity." from their fundrising drive section. The last time I've looked Google was a company.
  - grandalf 17y ago
    I think Google would have far more impact upon wikileaks via pagerank tweaks than via funding (if it wanted to). But in any case if Sergey had any balls he'd make a public statement praising wikileaks. It doesn't take balls to criticize the Chinese government.
- ErrantX 17y ago
  grandalf; your posting essentially an off topic rant over and over in these threads. That kind of behavior (i.e. a rant agenda) is generally frowned upon here - you should know that dude! Your not going to get any kindlier ears simply by reposting it every time this topic comes up... It's an impractical suggestion that would be bad for Google and Wikileaks
  - grandalf 17y ago
    Well, I realize it's probably going to have to stop soon, but I've earned lots of karma for posting more widely agreed upon comments, and so I think spending a bit of karma on an important issue is worthwhile. A few others have since started to pick up on the idea, so I think I can retire from this particular thing.
    - ErrantX 17y ago
      Im confused by your logic :) are you seriously suggesting that you think Google hosting a Wikileaks server is a good idea (for anyone)? Or are you just "trolling" anti-google sentiment? Regardless of karma you have to "spend" neither of those are appropriate behavior (on these threads).
      - grandalf 17y ago
        Well I'm glad you feel entitled to be the moral police officer of HN :) I should remark that I feel my comment is witty and appropriate and happens to employ a useful bite of sarcasm/satire to the issue. Furthermore, I don't think that posting a comment that you deem inappropriate constitutes inappropriate "behavior". The comments have clearly received lots of upvotes as well, but have ended up a few points negative after a few days. I am far from anti-google. In fact Google is one of my favorite companies, but its one vice is its tremendous willingness to get involved in politics (first Eric Schmidt's schmoozing with politicians and now Sergey's neoconservative anti-China posturing). Wikileaks occupies the uncomfortable space of being a subversive element right in Google's back yard. And, as much fun as it is to throw stones at China, there are still important issues of censorship and corruption right here in the US that could use exposure. The worst aspect of politics, by the way, is the way it leads people toward an "us vs them" view. Google's approach on China reinforces this. Being anti-China is the new livestrong bracelet, and it's dangerous to our society and will result in war.
mo34 17y ago
I think grandalf is just calling out Google's incoherent policy on 'censorship' - if fighting 'censorship' aligns with our primary advertising business then we support it, otherwise we fight it. Wikileaks would not support their primary core function, which is advertising.

You're a one man spam army on this idea of Google hosting a WikiLeaks mirror... Not to say it's not a good idea, but I don't think this is the place for such pestering.

grandalf 17y ago

haha... Well I feel sort of bad doing it b/c I love google... I just think it needs to be pointed out. It might help people realize a) the silliness of Google pretending to be fighting censorship and b) that they should donate to wikileaks.

sgift 17y ago
"Nor can we accept government or corporate funding and maintain our absolute integrity." from their fundrising drive section. The last time I've looked Google was a company.
- grandalf 17y ago
  I think Google would have far more impact upon wikileaks via pagerank tweaks than via funding (if it wanted to). But in any case if Sergey had any balls he'd make a public statement praising wikileaks. It doesn't take balls to criticize the Chinese government.
ErrantX 17y ago
grandalf; your posting essentially an off topic rant over and over in these threads. That kind of behavior (i.e. a rant agenda) is generally frowned upon here - you should know that dude! Your not going to get any kindlier ears simply by reposting it every time this topic comes up... It's an impractical suggestion that would be bad for Google and Wikileaks
- grandalf 17y ago
  Well, I realize it's probably going to have to stop soon, but I've earned lots of karma for posting more widely agreed upon comments, and so I think spending a bit of karma on an important issue is worthwhile. A few others have since started to pick up on the idea, so I think I can retire from this particular thing.
  - ErrantX 17y ago
    Im confused by your logic :) are you seriously suggesting that you think Google hosting a Wikileaks server is a good idea (for anyone)? Or are you just "trolling" anti-google sentiment? Regardless of karma you have to "spend" neither of those are appropriate behavior (on these threads).
    - grandalf 17y ago
      Well I'm glad you feel entitled to be the moral police officer of HN :) I should remark that I feel my comment is witty and appropriate and happens to employ a useful bite of sarcasm/satire to the issue. Furthermore, I don't think that posting a comment that you deem inappropriate constitutes inappropriate "behavior". The comments have clearly received lots of upvotes as well, but have ended up a few points negative after a few days. I am far from anti-google. In fact Google is one of my favorite companies, but its one vice is its tremendous willingness to get involved in politics (first Eric Schmidt's schmoozing with politicians and now Sergey's neoconservative anti-China posturing). Wikileaks occupies the uncomfortable space of being a subversive element right in Google's back yard. And, as much fun as it is to throw stones at China, there are still important issues of censorship and corruption right here in the US that could use exposure. The worst aspect of politics, by the way, is the way it leads people toward an "us vs them" view. Google's approach on China reinforces this. Being anti-China is the new livestrong bracelet, and it's dangerous to our society and will result in war.

mo34 17y ago

I think grandalf is just calling out Google's incoherent policy on 'censorship' - if fighting 'censorship' aligns with our primary advertising business then we support it, otherwise we fight it. Wikileaks would not support their primary core function, which is advertising.