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I love dense walkable cities, though I'd love to hear more about traffic capacity on the outer streets (for example, by getting rid of parking there), then of c
by paulsutter 10y ago
I love dense walkable cities, though I'd love to hear more about traffic capacity on the outer streets (for example, by getting rid of parking there), then of course the numbers on the briefly mentioned parking plan, and whether subway capacity will be increased (yay), etc.
I ask because I dearly hope that it works, pedestrian-dominated city areas are wonderful. I especially love the idea of getting parked cars off most streets. I've always hoped self driving cars will <edit> reduce the need for parking </edit>, but I'm just a dreamer and these guys have to make a real city work so I'd love to hear the math on it.
EDIT: it looks like bike sharing ("Bicing") and a new "Orthogonal Bus System" are key aspects of the transportation plan:
http://smartcity.bcn.cat/en/superblocks.html http://smartcity.bcn.cat/en/superblocks.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicing
- gkya 10y agoHow exactly self-driving cars would help for pedestrian-dominated urban areas?
- happyslobro 10y agoYou could send the car back home after it drops you off, or release it to pick up someone else. That is, if it is fully autonomous. I suspect that long before then, the "self driving" term is going to get abused by marketing until it means nothing more than "autonomously maintains RPM relative to pedal angle".
- bjelkeman-again 10y agoOr share the car with other people for a lot fewer cars overall. Imagine a town with 1/5 as many cars as today. How nice it would be.
- gkya 10y agoWhy not just hop on a bus then? How is it different?
- adrianN 10y agoThe bus has a fixed route, the robocar takes each person exactly where they want to go.
- egypturnash 10y agoThe dream of the automated public car: It comes to you within a couple of minutes when you call it, instead of having to wait for the next bus. Which can be around a half hour or worse in the US outside of the cores of cities. It goes directly where you want to go, instead of going vaguely near your destination and stopping every three blocks for passengers. Cargo can go in the trunk, rather than get hauled onto the bus by hand and fight for space with passengers when the bus is full
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- collyw 10y agoIn Chile they have "collectivos" which are basically taxis that go on set routes, more like buses, and charges are closer to bus fares.
- aianus 10y agoCollectivos are awesome (used them every day in Mexico). It blows my mind that countries we consider 'third-world' have such superior public transportation options.
- klausjensen 10y agoNever heard of that before, that is awesome. If I had to guess, why it is found in third world countries, not in first world countries, I would point to cost of labour and energy. It matters if the driver is paid 3$/hr or 20$/hr, and if the petrol is 2$ or 7$ per gallon.
- Avshalom 10y agoWell on one hand you can move parking lots, on the other hand you end up with a lot of empty cars driving around which means even more traffic.
- marcosdumay 10y agoMore cars on fewer, wider streets, while those same cars are not required to go through the narrower streets. I don't think there's any simple answer for what the overall effect will be. It will probably vary a lot from place to place.
- bluthru 10y agoThose cars can be bumper-to-bumper if they're all automated.