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Is this only a fork rather than being accepted into mainline because of Epic's thoughts regarding UWP? http://www.pcgamer.com/tim-sweeney-thinks-microsoft-will

• bitmapbrother 10y ago
  Why would a multi-platform game engine mainline changes that are only applicable to Windows 10 devices?
  • United857 10y ago
    Why not? Since it's a multiplatform engine already, any platform specific code would have already been modularized from the very beginning.
    • bitmapbrother 10y ago
      It's also code that modifies the engine in a way that Epic's founder disagrees with.
      • Asooka 10y ago
        I think you could make the case that people should not be locked in to UWP if they wish to develop an UWP app with Unreal Engine, so giving them an easy way to deploy on UWP, Mac, Linux, Android and iOS is beneficial to the engine ecosystem as a whole, even if you think that UWP is not something you should develop for.
      • krautsourced 10y ago
        Well there's also special code that caters for Android and Apple store development, so why not also Windows store. As long as there is choice, there's no problem. If the MS fork were to disallow any other target platform, that would be a problem. Otherwise I expect it to make it to the main branch soon.
      • kyriakos 10y ago
        the beauty of open source though will let people develop UWP games using epic's engine against its founder's wish.
        • Ralfp 10y ago
          Unreal Engine is still propertiary software. If Epic wishes so, they may enforce their wish on any of its users on grounds of EULA.
          • chii 10y ago
            Exactly. Do not mistake source available as open source.
          • pjmlp 10y ago
            EULAs are meaningless in many countries despite what US companies wish for.
        • sanxiyn 10y ago
          Unreal Engine 4 is not open source.
  • erdevs 10y ago
    The Unreal engine already has lots of platform-specific code for each of the platforms it supports. Eg DirectX is supported...
• kyriakos 10y ago
  the bottomline is that epic wants to make money out of the engine so unless they are willing to lose marketshare to other engines (e.g. Unity) they will eventually have to accept that their engine will be used for UWP apps.
  • douche 10y ago
    I'm still waiting on seeing some real UWP apps that aren't first-party Microsoft efforts or shovelware. The platform is not exactly new, and I'm just not seeing anybody bothering to adopt it.
    • wlesieutre 10y ago
      Netflix is on board, as is Hulu. But the platform makes more sense than average for them, since they want to be on Xbox. http://www.windowscentral.com/netflix-looks-be-readying-its-own-universal-app-xbox-one http://www.windowscentral.com/netflix-looks-be-readying-its-... I really liked the idea MS had with phones that could scale up to full screen devices if you docked them, but I'm more skeptical of this. Aside from media providers, who else is going to put in the effort to make their UI controller-friendly? Game engines are just about the only other example I can think of.
      • ocdtrekkie 10y ago
        I think the goal of scale-up would be to make it so easy people just put it in. Swiping up and down on the phone could be pushing up and down on the joystick on the Xbox, or using the scroll wheel on the PC. In theory. Obviously if not adjusted some, user experience suffers. But the idea is to make it so easy to adapt to different form factors, it just seems normal to. (People expect these days that their Android phone or iPhone app will work well on an Android tablet or iPad, for instance.)
  • forrestthewoods 10y ago
    First UWP needs to have market share.