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My wife and I have been using a chromebook as an inexpensive browser at home, with our work laptops if we need anything more intensive (we don't). We're lookin

by 33W 10y ago

My wife and I have been using a chromebook as an inexpensive browser at home, with our work laptops if we need anything more intensive (we don't). We're looking to get one for my mother in law as well, to give her a smoother computing experience.

zeveb 10y ago
If ChromeOS weren't a security nightmare (Google have complete access to one's system), I'd recommend it in a flash to non-technical folks. How long will it be until organisations such as Google & Mozilla realise that people cannot trust them? And how long will it be until people realise that they cannot trust organisations such as Google & Mozilla?
- anonbanker 10y ago
  Install GalliumOS[0] on a Chromebook. Security nightmare averted. 0. https://galliumos.org/ https://galliumos.org/
  - zeveb 10y ago
    That looks pretty cool, but why GalliumOS instead of just plain Debian?
    - anonbanker 10y ago
      keyboard/touchpad support, mainly. the drivers for most of the chromebooks haven't landed in mainline kernel yet. (I maintain patches for Gentoo/Calculate)
- tim333 10y ago
  Well, you can't trust anyone 100% but as organizations go I don't have much problem with Google having access. There was a recent report of 1 in 10 people in England and Wales being victims of cybercrime last year including 2.5m incidents of bank and credit card fraud. That's what I'd worry about which Google are probably better at blocking than most.
  - zeveb 10y ago
    > Well, you can't trust anyone 100% but as organizations go I don't have much problem with Google having access. Which means you trust every Google executive, manager, employee & contractor, as well as every agency of every government Google is beholden too. I trust myself, and myself alone.
    - justinlardinois 10y ago
      Do you have any tin foil left so the rest of us can make hats too?
      - zeveb 10y ago
        > Do you have any tin foil left so the rest of us can make hats too? That's not an argument; it's an insult. Do you have any actual rebuttal to my statement that trusting Google means trusting 'every Google executive, manager, employee & contractor, as well as every agency of every government Google is beholden to,' or a rebuttal to my implication that this is unwise?
        justinlardinois 10y ago
        Yes: Google has internal controls on information access, and government access is subject to legal processes, and governments don't automatically share all information between agencies. Your argument is hyperbole.
    - Dylan16807 10y ago
      Because everyone that walks by the google campus is given unaudited access codes to all the servers?

by 33W 10y ago

zeveb 10y ago

If ChromeOS weren't a security nightmare (Google have complete access to one's system), I'd recommend it in a flash to non-technical folks. How long will it be until organisations such as Google & Mozilla realise that people cannot trust them? And how long will it be until people realise that they cannot trust organisations such as Google & Mozilla?

anonbanker 10y ago
Install GalliumOS[0] on a Chromebook. Security nightmare averted. 0. https://galliumos.org/ https://galliumos.org/
- zeveb 10y ago
  That looks pretty cool, but why GalliumOS instead of just plain Debian?
  - anonbanker 10y ago
    keyboard/touchpad support, mainly. the drivers for most of the chromebooks haven't landed in mainline kernel yet. (I maintain patches for Gentoo/Calculate)
tim333 10y ago
Well, you can't trust anyone 100% but as organizations go I don't have much problem with Google having access. There was a recent report of 1 in 10 people in England and Wales being victims of cybercrime last year including 2.5m incidents of bank and credit card fraud. That's what I'd worry about which Google are probably better at blocking than most.
- zeveb 10y ago
  > Well, you can't trust anyone 100% but as organizations go I don't have much problem with Google having access. Which means you trust every Google executive, manager, employee & contractor, as well as every agency of every government Google is beholden too. I trust myself, and myself alone.
  - justinlardinois 10y ago
    Do you have any tin foil left so the rest of us can make hats too?
    - zeveb 10y ago
      > Do you have any tin foil left so the rest of us can make hats too? That's not an argument; it's an insult. Do you have any actual rebuttal to my statement that trusting Google means trusting 'every Google executive, manager, employee & contractor, as well as every agency of every government Google is beholden to,' or a rebuttal to my implication that this is unwise?
      - justinlardinois 10y ago
        Yes: Google has internal controls on information access, and government access is subject to legal processes, and governments don't automatically share all information between agencies. Your argument is hyperbole.
  - Dylan16807 10y ago
    Because everyone that walks by the google campus is given unaudited access codes to all the servers?