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"Sorry, you need to enable JavaScript to visit this website."

• ux-app 10y ago
  welcome to 2016
  • paraxisi 10y ago
    What ever happened to fail gracefully?
    • y0ghur7_xxx 10y ago
      If you cripple your browser some websites will break. Don't expect site owners to make them work just for you. Fail gracefully was over the moment the "disable javascript" checkbox was removed from the options menu in every major browser.
      • douche 10y ago
        My Chrome still has a radio button (admittedly not a checkbox...) that will disable javascript on all sites. There's a distinction to be made between content sites and application sites. It's really just too much work to try to make an application fall back to plain HTML, but for a content-centered site, like a blog, a news site, etc, it's not that hard to do things right and not require JS.
      • chongli 10y ago
        In this case, the site owner is deliberately sabotaging non-JavaScript users in order to get them to run ad-tracking and analytics. There isn't actually a good-faith reason to require JavaScript here.
        • coldtea 10y ago
          >In this case, the site owner is deliberately sabotaging non-JavaScript users All 10 of them?
        • Sacho 10y ago
          The site owner profits from showing ads. There's little business reason for them to show ad-less pages to users. What does good faith have to do with it? They're not assuming you'll hack them or steal their content, it's a matter of business.
      • wtbob 10y ago
        > If you cripple your browser some websites will break. A browser which doesn't implement JavaScript is not crippled; it is 100% functional. A web page which requires JavaScript is crippled, because JavaScript is not required in order to display text and images.
      • _0ffh 10y ago
        It's the website that's crippled - and intentionally so!
    • coldtea 10y ago
      Opportunity cost happened.
    • mhurron 10y ago
      You can't run ads or track your users that way.
      • chinathrow 10y ago
        Yes you can, actually. It's just more work to set it up properly but you absolutely can track user easily server side and you can serve ads without JS just fine.
        • marcosdumay 10y ago
          But you can't automatically relay those capabilities to untrusted 3rd parties. And that's where the money is.
          • chinathrow 10y ago
            Can you elaborate on there the money is exactly? Is it in selling data points about your visitors?
            • marcosdumay 10y ago
              It is in running 3rd party trackers on your site.
• oolongCat 10y ago
  https://web.archive.org/web/20160729111939/https://www.1843magazine.com/features/do-nice-guys-come-second https://web.archive.org/web/20160729111939/https://www.1843m...
• awalGarg 10y ago
  If you use some style injector plugin (like stylish), you can add this for that page: #seckit-noscript-tag { display: none; } and it works fine... (or you can remove the matching div from the web inspector if you are using a browser which has one). Aside: That one element is blocking an entire working page for no reason. Where oh where has web dev come to :'(
  • FreeFull 10y ago
    Firefox's reader mode also works
    • erelde 10y ago
      Isn't reader mode effectively an adblocker and no-javascript mode ? That will parse the html and return only what it detects as the divs you want to read ?
      • UweSchmidt 10y ago
        Obviously it won't block js if js is technically required to render the page, leaving you open to security risks and compromising your privacy.
  • erlehmann_ 10y ago
    It probably is not “for no reason” – the reason is that the page contains advertising and tracking scripts. The page owner is even willing to lie (pretending that JS is necessary is a flat-out lie if the page works fine without any JS features) so that users enable JS and run those. In 2013, I created a program to visualize what hosts a web site notifies when it is loaded http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/src/list-web-bugs.py http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/src/list-web-bugs.py – you can see the output for the article here: http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/pics/graphs/web-bugs/www.1843magazine.com-web-bugs.png http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/pics/graphs/web-bugs/w...
    • gluelogic 10y ago
• toomanythings4 10y ago
  Less than 2% of all web users have javascript turned off. Some say it's less than 1% and it's mostly people who understand the consequences of doing so. Turning off the native component of anything always has consequences for those tinkering under the hood and the vast majority of those visiting that site don't tinker under the hood. As the owner of a web dev company, I sometimes consider ignoring the "must work even without javascript" mantra. I haven't yet but there are times.
• epimetheus 10y ago
  My inner pedant screams at this kind of message. If I'm seeing this message, I've already visited the website.