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5 points by pinksoda 17y ago

My start-up is www.talkburst.com - review anyone by name and location. Categories such as "Professors & Teachers" and "Lawyers & Attorneys" allow easy reviewing of professionals - but reviewing your neighbor or co-worker is okay too! In the last thread, the most valuable advice I was given was that you didn't want to sort through categories with hundreds of thousand reviews, sorted by last name. I created a "custom feed" or "custom homepage" thing. Once you customize one, which consists of choosing the locations you care about and categories you care about, the homepage will display the latest reviews in your areas of interest. What do you think of it? Let's hear what you think it needs next.

pinksoda 17y ago
Clickable link: http://www.talkburst.com http://www.talkburst.com
python123 17y ago
Cool. I think you should have the names of the people on the frontpage - by their pictures or whatever. Sometimes the reviews don't mention the name of the person, and then it's impossible to tell who they are.
Kliment 17y ago
What if people do not want to be reviewed?
- pinksoda 17y ago
  It works the same way as Citysearch or Yelp, in that aspect, anyone can review you. Members need to be aware of their local laws when writing potentially libelious or hateful statements - you open yourself up to lawsuits if you go on the site and start stirring up lies. It's pretty easy to make your point, even a negative one, without being libelious/hateful/rude, which is the way it should be done.
bdfh42 17y ago
Have you checked out the draconian libel laws in the UK? They apply if the "libel" can be read from the UK. How about the privacy laws in Italy - check what just happened to some Google Execs... This could end up as a great "get rich quick" scheme for the lawyers. Sorry to come on as a dampener but this is risky territory.
- drtse4 17y ago
  Was thinking about Italy too, if someone dared to launch something like this here he will receive a nice subpoena right after the site went public. Anonymous publicly visible opinions on someone else? Not here, way too risky.
  - pinksoda 17y ago
    Semi-public information, such as address or phone number, isn't allowed on the profiles, even though a simple whitepages.com search allows that. The amount of information in the more than 1 million reviews that would be considered "private" is less than what you would already find through available avenues such as a Google search or even public records.
- pinksoda 17y ago
  It doesn't seem risky in the US, I'm not aware of any similar laws here. Fortunately, I don't live in the UK, so their laws don't apply to me, even if they say they do.
  - pbhjpbhj 17y ago
    Ha, good one. It's more generally called "forum shopping" but specfically it would be "libel tourism". http://www.economist.com/world/britain/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15179462 http://www.economist.com/world/britain/displaystory.cfm?stor... might open your eyes a little: >The most famous example is the case of Rachel Ehrenfeld, an American who wrote a book about the funding of Islamic terrorism. It sold a mere 23 copies in Britain, over the internet. But a Saudi businessman sued her in a London court and was awarded over £100,000 ($160,000).
    - pinksoda 17y ago
      That's pretty common. Take a look here: >> Despite its track record of successfully defending cases brought in U.S. courts, in July 2003 a default judgment was entered against the site in the Eastern Caribbean Supreme Court High Court of Justice for EC$27,100,932.00.[4] The award, made in Eastern Caribbean currency rather than U.S. dollars, has not been recognized or enforced by any U.S. Court. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripoff_Report http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripoff_Report
Mc_Big_G 17y ago
Why do I have to create an acccount to see "more"? I clicked on the "more" link for entrepreneurs, then, on the next page, had to choose the checkbox for entrepreneurs and click continue. You should automatically recognize which "more" link I clicked. Save the category checking for people who come to that page wanting to do a search or browse by category. On the next page I had to put in two locations. I'd go with one and let the user add another one if they want. Then I was asked to create an account. Why? I just want to browse your site. I stopped at this point, so it just became a waste of time.
- pinksoda 17y ago
  It used to recognize which one you chose, then it showed you the first page of N amount of results, which for some categories is over 200,000 reviews, in alphabetical order. I got advice from HN'ers that it needed to be changed :) The account simply narrows down the results for you based on your selections of categories and locations. You can enter just one location and it will still work, it just doesn't tell you that. The account is barely an account, just pick a username and e-mail address, click, your password is in your inbox. Simply used to remember your preferences since it's pretty heavily customized (narrowed down) for you, to be relevant. Now that I've explained it a bit more, do you have any suggestions?
  - Mc_Big_G 17y ago
    I wouldn't require account creation until the user wants to post something. Store their temporary preferences in the session.

5 points by pinksoda 17y ago

pinksoda 17y ago

Clickable link: http://www.talkburst.com http://www.talkburst.com

python123 17y ago

Cool. I think you should have the names of the people on the frontpage - by their pictures or whatever. Sometimes the reviews don't mention the name of the person, and then it's impossible to tell who they are.

Kliment 17y ago

What if people do not want to be reviewed?

pinksoda 17y ago
It works the same way as Citysearch or Yelp, in that aspect, anyone can review you. Members need to be aware of their local laws when writing potentially libelious or hateful statements - you open yourself up to lawsuits if you go on the site and start stirring up lies. It's pretty easy to make your point, even a negative one, without being libelious/hateful/rude, which is the way it should be done.

bdfh42 17y ago

Have you checked out the draconian libel laws in the UK? They apply if the "libel" can be read from the UK. How about the privacy laws in Italy - check what just happened to some Google Execs... This could end up as a great "get rich quick" scheme for the lawyers. Sorry to come on as a dampener but this is risky territory.

drtse4 17y ago
Was thinking about Italy too, if someone dared to launch something like this here he will receive a nice subpoena right after the site went public. Anonymous publicly visible opinions on someone else? Not here, way too risky.
- pinksoda 17y ago
  Semi-public information, such as address or phone number, isn't allowed on the profiles, even though a simple whitepages.com search allows that. The amount of information in the more than 1 million reviews that would be considered "private" is less than what you would already find through available avenues such as a Google search or even public records.
pinksoda 17y ago
It doesn't seem risky in the US, I'm not aware of any similar laws here. Fortunately, I don't live in the UK, so their laws don't apply to me, even if they say they do.
- pbhjpbhj 17y ago
  Ha, good one. It's more generally called "forum shopping" but specfically it would be "libel tourism". http://www.economist.com/world/britain/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15179462 http://www.economist.com/world/britain/displaystory.cfm?stor... might open your eyes a little: >The most famous example is the case of Rachel Ehrenfeld, an American who wrote a book about the funding of Islamic terrorism. It sold a mere 23 copies in Britain, over the internet. But a Saudi businessman sued her in a London court and was awarded over £100,000 ($160,000).
  - pinksoda 17y ago
    That's pretty common. Take a look here: >> Despite its track record of successfully defending cases brought in U.S. courts, in July 2003 a default judgment was entered against the site in the Eastern Caribbean Supreme Court High Court of Justice for EC$27,100,932.00.[4] The award, made in Eastern Caribbean currency rather than U.S. dollars, has not been recognized or enforced by any U.S. Court. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripoff_Report http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripoff_Report

Mc_Big_G 17y ago

Why do I have to create an acccount to see "more"? I clicked on the "more" link for entrepreneurs, then, on the next page, had to choose the checkbox for entrepreneurs and click continue. You should automatically recognize which "more" link I clicked. Save the category checking for people who come to that page wanting to do a search or browse by category. On the next page I had to put in two locations. I'd go with one and let the user add another one if they want. Then I was asked to create an account. Why? I just want to browse your site. I stopped at this point, so it just became a waste of time.

pinksoda 17y ago
It used to recognize which one you chose, then it showed you the first page of N amount of results, which for some categories is over 200,000 reviews, in alphabetical order. I got advice from HN'ers that it needed to be changed :) The account simply narrows down the results for you based on your selections of categories and locations. You can enter just one location and it will still work, it just doesn't tell you that. The account is barely an account, just pick a username and e-mail address, click, your password is in your inbox. Simply used to remember your preferences since it's pretty heavily customized (narrowed down) for you, to be relevant. Now that I've explained it a bit more, do you have any suggestions?
- Mc_Big_G 17y ago
  I wouldn't require account creation until the user wants to post something. Store their temporary preferences in the session.