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We're building a secure cloud storage, sync and share Dropbox alternative with local, end-to-end encryption built in: https://www.sync.com https://www.sync.com

We're building a secure cloud storage, sync and share Dropbox alternative with local, end-to-end encryption built in: https://www.sync.com https://www.sync.com > Why do none of the big cloud providers offer local encryption? - They want to police your files - Free services typically monetize you through data mining your files (eg. Google Drive) - It's difficult (not impossible) to build in usability features that might need to access, scan or manipulate your file data, when you don't have access to the file data server-side in the cloud (everything has to be pulled down locally first which adds overhead). - Browser support for local HTML5 saveAs() etc. handling is still all over the map (Safari is almost a showstopper). - Easy account recovery options are limited The tech is getting better though, and there's certainly a number of good options in terms of cloud storage with local encryption built in, including Sync!

IanCal 10y ago
> Free services typically monetize you through data mining your files (eg. Google Drive) Do you have a source that Google drive is mining my files? Free vs paid vs business?
- jasonsync 10y ago
  Sure, from Google's TOS: https://www.google.com/policies/terms/ https://www.google.com/policies/terms/ Our automated systems analyze your content (including emails) to provide you personally relevant product features, such as customized search results, tailored advertising, and spam and malware detection. This analysis occurs as the content is sent, received, and when it is stored.
  - IanCal 10y ago
    https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/drive/HgAeG7ljlZA;context-place=topicsearchin/drive/advertising https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/drive/HgAeG7l... > As with Google Docs previously, we do not target ads to you based on the content of your files. Our servers index the files you put into Drive in order to provide features like fast search, virus detection and optical character recognition.
    - jasonsync 10y ago
      Easy for a community manager to say, but she didn't agree to the blanket terms of service. You did. The binding TOS explicitly states they may analyze your content, and the analysis occurs as the content is sent, received, AND when it is stored. If what the community manager says is true, it would be awesome if Google actually updated the TOS to clarify that file AND file meta data in Google Drive are exempt. I mean I love my Chromebook, and it came with 100 GB of Google Drive free. But I have no idea how much access Google has to the files, so I can only assume the TOS is accurate. == There's many choice quotes from Google employees that contradict, skirt around or gloss over these issues: Are files stored on Google Drive Encrypted? You'll note the first response doesn't answer the question. Then finally a contradicting response: That's a valid question. Google Drive does NOT currently encrypt files on the server. Our team and our company take the security and privacy of our users very seriously. https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/drive/6AdrOutSoFU/sgixqxX3yfQJ https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/drive/6AdrOutSoFU/sgi... == Here's a funny conversation regarding web search history being on by default across all your devices: I can't believe that this option is enabled by default! Clearly it should be DISabled by default if Google cares at all about their users' security and privacy. It's one thing that Google collects anonymous data about what people search for and do online, but to collect a database of detailed personally identifiable information on an opt-out instead of an opt-in basis? The product manager isn't quite sure either: I'm a PM at Google working on Personalized Search / Web History ... We've found that it is difficult to articulate the usefulness of having Web History turned on without trying it out for yourself. https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/websearch/12cW5YPyvzY/McZXqsIzP8oJ;noredirect=true https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/websearch/12cW5... ==
      - IanCal 10y ago
        My concern here is that you're making really quite a strong statement about what google do with your files on google drive, and the only information I can find is a very generic TOS and a statement on googles forum that they don't use your files like this. Have you tried contacting google to get confirmation?
        10y ago
api 10y ago
Thanks, taking a look. If you had a Linux client we would consider using this for a lot of things.

IanCal 10y ago

> Free services typically monetize you through data mining your files (eg. Google Drive) Do you have a source that Google drive is mining my files? Free vs paid vs business?

jasonsync 10y ago
Sure, from Google's TOS: https://www.google.com/policies/terms/ https://www.google.com/policies/terms/ Our automated systems analyze your content (including emails) to provide you personally relevant product features, such as customized search results, tailored advertising, and spam and malware detection. This analysis occurs as the content is sent, received, and when it is stored.
- IanCal 10y ago
  https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/drive/HgAeG7ljlZA;context-place=topicsearchin/drive/advertising https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/drive/HgAeG7l... > As with Google Docs previously, we do not target ads to you based on the content of your files. Our servers index the files you put into Drive in order to provide features like fast search, virus detection and optical character recognition.
  - jasonsync 10y ago
    Easy for a community manager to say, but she didn't agree to the blanket terms of service. You did. The binding TOS explicitly states they may analyze your content, and the analysis occurs as the content is sent, received, AND when it is stored. If what the community manager says is true, it would be awesome if Google actually updated the TOS to clarify that file AND file meta data in Google Drive are exempt. I mean I love my Chromebook, and it came with 100 GB of Google Drive free. But I have no idea how much access Google has to the files, so I can only assume the TOS is accurate. == There's many choice quotes from Google employees that contradict, skirt around or gloss over these issues: Are files stored on Google Drive Encrypted? You'll note the first response doesn't answer the question. Then finally a contradicting response: That's a valid question. Google Drive does NOT currently encrypt files on the server. Our team and our company take the security and privacy of our users very seriously. https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/drive/6AdrOutSoFU/sgixqxX3yfQJ https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/drive/6AdrOutSoFU/sgi... == Here's a funny conversation regarding web search history being on by default across all your devices: I can't believe that this option is enabled by default! Clearly it should be DISabled by default if Google cares at all about their users' security and privacy. It's one thing that Google collects anonymous data about what people search for and do online, but to collect a database of detailed personally identifiable information on an opt-out instead of an opt-in basis? The product manager isn't quite sure either: I'm a PM at Google working on Personalized Search / Web History ... We've found that it is difficult to articulate the usefulness of having Web History turned on without trying it out for yourself. https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/websearch/12cW5YPyvzY/McZXqsIzP8oJ;noredirect=true https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/websearch/12cW5... ==
    - IanCal 10y ago
      My concern here is that you're making really quite a strong statement about what google do with your files on google drive, and the only information I can find is a very generic TOS and a statement on googles forum that they don't use your files like this. Have you tried contacting google to get confirmation?
      - 10y ago

api 10y ago

Thanks, taking a look. If you had a Linux client we would consider using this for a lot of things.