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You aren't wrong. Most of us are stuck in conformist, drab and conservative societies, where we're forced to participate in the market economy. This is soul-cru
by sevenless 10y ago
You aren't wrong. Most of us are stuck in conformist, drab and conservative societies, where we're forced to participate in the market economy. This is soul-crushing, and bad for nearly everyone, but especially those in poor countries.
I recommend:
1. Don't work hard. Try to reduce your productivity.
2. Don't work long hours. Reduce your working week to the minimum necessary. Most university graduates earn enough to live comfortably on 10 or 20 hours work per week.
3. Have less stuff. Go outside more, even if it's to play Pokemon Go.
4. Do things for other people.
5. Try to lead an innovative life. Don't wear a tie.
6. Seek to abolish the existing world order.
- rekado 10y agoIn addition to that I suggest abandoning the idea of trying to be somebody. More important than individuals are what they achieve when working together. This belongs to point 4: "do things for other people". Doing things for others often works best when joining existing efforts. Many projects with a social agenda don't have enough funds or supporters, because they operate outside of the simple profit model.
- king_phil 10y agoYes. Don't be "somebody"", just be yourself and work on improving a few skills plus get out of your comfort zone. Go to an acting class. Learn a new language. Go to a small, special cafe every day where the people after a while greet you like family. Read "a guide to the good life" and really reflect about it. Then read it again.
- Practicality 10y agoAbolishing the world order seems unnecessary but the rest is reasonable advice :)
- hellameta 10y agoNot to be picky, but if you're trying to do (6), forget about trying to do (1) & (2)
- NumberCruncher 10y agoHaving an office job, eg. signing a work contract where you have to schow up every morning is not participating in the market economy but voluntary slavery. Don´t be a slave! I live in Europe where self employement is not common but the most happiest friends of mine are all somehow self employed.
- cp9 10y ago... that is not what slavery is
- daveloyall 10y agoEmployment contracts aside... Let's just ask ourselves, is having a job optional? Of course it is optional, because no one is holding a gun to your head, right? But "everybody knows" that 1. if you don't work, you'll sooner or later (perhaps sooner!) be homeless and 2. homelessness can lead to sudden, violent death. Just because the trigger and the barrel are far apart doesn't mean it isn't a gun.
- squeaky-clean 10y ago> Employment contracts aside... Let's just ask ourselves, is having a job optional? The majority of people need to work if they want to survive, that's true. So "jobs" aren't voluntary. But "a job" is. You don't have to pick plants out in a field if you don't want to. If you don't like your position, or boss, or pay, you can quit and look for work elsewhere. Or even have multiple jobs! A slave doesn't get to say "This other company is nicer and pays better, so I'm leaving here and going there instead." But you can.
- daveloyall 10y agoSlaves don't get to pick where they sleep, either. Thing is, neither do most people. SELECT TOP 1 job,residence FROM jobs JOIN residences WHERE jobs.pay > residences.rent ORDER BY jobs.pay DESC, residences.rent ASC it's common to add some qualifications like... AND jobs.category NOT IN ('murder','prostitution') AND residences.crime_factor < 0.4 ...etc. But that doesn't change the fact that LOTS of people believe in their hearts that they have absolutely no choice but to continue doing exactly what they are doing. I'd hazard the guess that almost all of us have actually removed WHERE predicates because during the initial searches (back in late childhood), zero rows were returned. Predicates like jobs.category = 'helping_people' or residences.climate = 'tropical' If you are thinking that it's just not possible for everyone to have their ideal job, fine. It's not. But stop for just a second and review that survival part... Why exactly is it so hard to survive without a job, in 2016? I mean, physically. You need air and water and food and shelter. Those are listed in decreasing order of necessary frequency. Seems to me that the problem is rent and the social framework that enforces eviction via violence--even if the space isn't otherwise being used. I, for one, would not die without a job--not from starvation. But I would eventually be arrested, beat up, stripped of my possessions, etc, and that would eventually lead to death. The jobless don't die--they are killed. Slavery.
- uola 10y agoI don't necessarily disagree, a balanced life is a good thing. But on the other hand it's just a slightly lesser conformist one. What you really want to do is to channel your energy and ambition in another direction. Unless you're rich you can't live on dreams. You have to pay your dues. But then instead of buying a house and waiting for that promotion you can do something different.
- mastermachetier 10y agoI think setting achievable goals to work towards also helps. Although I feel "stuck" at times as well.
- md224 10y agoI don't know if I've ever seen #1 given as advice, at least around these parts... very contrarian! I like it.
- eevilspock 10y agoNo. Work hard. On something that matters. The world needs a lot of help. If people with privilege use that privilege to slack off rather than give back, the world has no hope. You will find a lot of meaning and joy in giving, in focusing on the well-being of others. Your own well-being will follow. Yes to 3, 4 and 6! 5 Never hurts.
- rekado 10y agoThere is no point in burning out quickly. Burn sustainably.
- ivm 10y ago> The world needs a lot of help. With great power comes great responsibility. There are many people even in developed countries[1] who need help of those who made it through. [1] http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/12/24/how-bad-are-things/ http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/12/24/how-bad-are-things/
- antisthenes 10y agoThis is one of those puzzling comments that I can't tell if tongue-in-cheek or actually serious. I like it! Life's too serious and people need some chaotic ambiguity to spice it up. > Don't work hard. Try to reduce your productivity. Sounds good. Most people aren't as productive as they think they are, imho. I'd rather not buy into their facade and just be as productive as I need to be when I need to be! > Don't work long hours. Reduce your working week to the minimum necessary. Most university graduates earn enough to live comfortably on 10 or 20 hours work per week. Eh, I don't know where you live, but 10-20 hours of work would be a straight path to homelessness. Unless you mean actual hours of productive work (in a nominal 40 hour work week). Then it's a good target. > Have less stuff. Go outside more, even if it's to play Pokemon Go. Completely agree. Going outside in the summer and staying inside (a suburban home) has changed my life for the better more than any other single thing. > Do things for other people. Any suggestions? What do you think most people would like done for them? > Seek to abolish the existing world order. I think the world order is doing a pretty good job in that on its own.
- humanrebar 10y ago> Seek to abolish the existing world order. Seems like abolishing world orders takes a lot of work. At least more than ten hours per week.
- throwaway1979 10y agoI am not sure about the work less/work less hard comments. I get paid a decent, fair wage by my employer. I personally consider it "justice" if I do my best and give them my best. As a new father, I have to fight to work hard and also give my family time.
- ddavidn 10y agoGreat points here. Counterpoints to consider: 1 & 2 are different for everyone. I get an energy boost from working a certain amount of really productive hours during the week. Be self-aware, meditate, and identify the symptoms leading up to burnout. Err on the side of caution when it comes to preventing exhaustion, but let yourself binge on productivity if you're excited about the work you're doing. After you're done with that project, if you have a chance, take some time off and do something completely different. Surround yourself with people, opportunities and environments that make you excited to take a break.
- amelius 10y agoPoint 6 seems to be in conflict with point 1. Changing the world order will require lots of work (or lots of thinking, which is also work).
- sevenless 10y agoI'm speaking of work we're forced to do within the market-liberal economy. You are not likely to get paid to overthrow it.
- emmelaich 10y agoOr these days the advice may be to ear a tie! Since lots of tech-oriented companies have a very relaxed or non-existent clothing policy. Anything to stand out.
- notduncansmith 10y ago7. Cut social media out of your life. I've never been happier and more clear-headed than I've been since I stopped using pretty much all social media (except Snapchat with close family). By the way, we need more people working on #6.
- burgerdev 10y agoHacker news comments don't count.
- jsmith0295 10y agoYou aren't forced to. You could always choose to be in poverty instead, if you don't care to do produce any wealth.
- TeMPOraL 10y agoIf I put a gun to your head, I'm not forcing you to do anything - you can always choose the bullet. That market economy is running only on voluntary trade is one of the biggest and weirdest misconception that's being spread. Most of the transactions we make are ones we cannot reasonably choose not to make. We can at best choose the vendor we're dealing with.
- jsmith0295 10y agoI think those two things are different despite them both being coercive. Most civilizations have always frowned on the equivalent of holding a gun to someone's head, but not the idea that you need to work to survive. But let's suppose that force is involved in a market economy. I would agree that it should be there. And its because I'm not from a wealthy background. I've worked with the people that would benefit from this kind of change, and a large majority of them would waste it.
- avindroth 10y agoThis is very, very dangerous advice. The advice is based on the context of the commenter, not based on the context of the OP. This is why reading online advice is mostly crap: you have to have a great bullshit-detector and select ones that are most applicable to your situation. Most of the comments in this thread are based on romantic ideals of first-world societies (Work less, stay in the present, be altruistic, travel, etc.). These principles only work in the right context. If you have zero motivation and no life goal, then traveling won't do you shit. You won't magically find some inspiration on a tropical island. At the end of the 3-month (or god forbid, year-long) vagabonding journey, you will find yourself still empty, still goalless, and even more penniless. If you don't know where to go in your career, having less stuff and doing things for other people won't do you any good. That is dancing around the problem. That is the equivalent of starting to meditate when there is a fire next door. That won't cut it. Of course, meditation for emotional stability and investment is worthwhile (and advisable). For the third time I repeat, the context is important. If you don't know where to go and have no motivation, start working on exactly that: find your way forward. I am not you, I don't know your life, so you should probably get advice from someone you want to be like, knows you well, and has no ulterior motives. But those people are hard to come by, so I will try to lay down the system that worked for me. 1. Befriend death. Imagine a sniper shooting a bullet aimed right between your eyes, and time stops just when the bullet is a single foot away from your skull: What will your expression and thought process be like? Will you regret anything? What will you think about? I will assume you have done that sufficiently terrifying imagination. Then think about that very moment, but when you will actually die. What will you want to have accomplished? The most dangerous question of all: Why do you live? My personal answer is, to enjoy life and go through peak experiences[1]. Life is a festival. I want to check out every attraction it offers. Your answer might vary, but the important thing is to fit the following steps based on your answer to this question. The answers may not be generally applicable, but questions are. 2. Work your way downward from death. Once you have defined your life's meta-objective, start making it more specific. To give an example (and definitely do not follow my examples word for word, that is the point!), I want to "Become a Polyglot (8)" and "Run an Ultra-marathon." Those would be my go-to peak experiences to work towards. Of course, this is not a bucket list, so career things like "Positive Technological Shift" or personal things like "Become a Great Dad" matter as well. It's okay if these change. They should change. But remember, the more specific a goal is, the more it's bound to change. But usually, the general, meta-objectives tend to be stable for longer. 3. Prioritize your goals. Then prioritize your prioritization. So now set a number to them to be able to say which is most important for you. Numbered lists are infinitely better than bulleted lists. 4. Decompose a goal into multiple projects. Decomposition, decomposition, decomposition. Take the abstract and complex goals and make them specific and digestible. 5. Decompose a project into multiple tasks. These tasks should take less than 5 pomodoros (25 minute blocks) to complete. If not, decompose further. Check out the Pomodoro technique. This alone might help with lack of motivation. 6. Start working on those tasks. Like goals, the projects and tasks should be numbered as well. Prioritize prioritization. Do number 1 first, number 2 second, etc. Cannot overstate how important this is. -------------------------------------------------------- I must be honest, I got slightly angry. Putting this on paper (edit: bits) helped. So this was perhaps more therapeutic for myself, than helpful for you. But the world runs on compassionate egocentrism, so I do not feel guilty. There are some tools that help with this: 1. Pomodoro Technique[2] A lot of people (i.e. my past self) think the 25/5 is the important part. NO. The important part is getting rid of all potential places for distractions. Put your phone on Airplane mode, lock the door, use Freedom (the app), and get yourself into flow. 2. The Five Minute Journal[3] 3. The Productivity Planner[4] Also, I have commented on this, but FightMediocrity's video on How to Stop Worrying and Start Living[5] is helpful, if worry is getting to you. If you have career-related problems, then 80,000 hours by William MacAskill[6] is great. If you don't know what your "passion" is (hint: no such thing exists), then check them out. Shit advice is mental masturbation. You read it, and go "Yeah, I will do that tomorrow!" But nothing fucking changes. Good advice requires work and execution on the recipient. It's tough, but things actually change. Good luck. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_experience https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_experience [2]: http://lifehacker.com/productivity-101-a-primer-to-the-pomodoro-technique-1598992730 http://lifehacker.com/productivity-101-a-primer-to-the-pomod... [3]: https://www.intelligentchange.com/products/the-five-minute-journal https://www.intelligentchange.com/products/the-five-minute-j... [4]: https://www.intelligentchange.com/products/the-productivity-planner https://www.intelligentchange.com/products/the-productivity-... [5]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UYYzbzGk6s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UYYzbzGk6s [6]: https://80000hours.org/ https://80000hours.org/