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As much as I like my Macs, I don't think you can claim a Mac is cheap now. I was in the market for a new MacBook Pro, but the machine I was looking at was goin

As much as I like my Macs, I don't think you can claim a Mac is cheap now. I was in the market for a new MacBook Pro, but the machine I was looking at was going to cost me over $4000 (Australian, but at today's exchange rates that's still about $3200 USD). Apple really price gouge on SSD & RAM upgrades - there is no way a 1TB SSD costs $800. I ended up buying a fully-spec'd 2012 MBP instead (more affordable, better keyboard & trackpad than the 2015s) - and shortly after, a friend bought an identically spec'd HP for half the price of my new Mac. I'd love to say I'd bought a more reliable machine, but this MBP has already been back to the Apple Store twice for repairs in just 6 months. Frankly, it's become embarrassing to buy Apple. So even though I'm that guy who queued up for a day-one iPhone 4, wore Panic Spinner t-shirts into the Apple Store & knew the staff, persuaded clients & work to support Macs... I now recommend PCs and Windows 10 to friends instead. I can't justify the 100% markup anymore. And since Apple stopped updating macOS for my older Macs (a MacBook 1,1 and 3,1) I even run Windows 10 on my old Macs - now I know I'll get security updates until 2020 on those machines, even though Apple insists they're obsolete. (Win10 runs pretty well on them.)

jjawssd 10y ago
tl;dr my friend's mac broke all macs suck
- WaxProlix 10y ago
  Did you even read the comment?
- pbhjpbhj 10y ago
  He doesn't even mention a friend having a broken mac, I think you miss-parsed; or maybe I did. "this" mac broke, not "his"?? Certainly you summary is wrong as a synopsis of his comment.
  - SyneRyder 10y ago
    That's correct - by "this" Mac I meant the one I'm typing on now. It works at the moment, but it has twice lost the startup drive & refused to start without new replacement components from Apple - not something I expect from brand new hardware bought direct from Apple.
    - davidf18 10y ago
      Very sorry to hear that you're having problems. Macs have had problems with GPUs in the past in Macbook Pros (2011 version?) where Apple has ended up replacing the entire insides (this happened recently on a friends 17" 2011). But (knock on aluminum), I've had 4 macs since 2011 all without hardware problems.
davidf18 10y ago
Sorry, you're getting ripped off "Down Under." I've been to Sydney/Melbourne twice and I love it. Bondi Beach Yeah! But you can get a brand new 15" Macbook Pro Retina for about $1900 total from an authorized dealer. Check out website Appleinsider.com Besides being able to go to stores for Genius Bar help, you're when you call for customer service or tech support you get Americans who are very helpful and speak English well not people from Philippines, India, whatever. Nothing against these people of course, just when it comes to tech support. There was a recent NYTimes article about how companies make tech support awful. Apple is not one of them. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/04/technology/why-tech-support-is-purposely-unbearable.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/04/technology/why-tech-suppor... My times calling Microsoft Tech support (having to do with Office 2016 Mac and other MS products running in Windows 10 VM) were miserable. Switched to the wrong people, people who can't speak english well, who don't seem to understand what I was talking about. Having to call over and over and over again. Part of the added cost of Macs is precisely to ensure that you get quality support and is well worth paying for unless you absolutely cannot afford it.

jjawssd 10y ago

tl;dr my friend's mac broke all macs suck

WaxProlix 10y ago
Did you even read the comment?
pbhjpbhj 10y ago
He doesn't even mention a friend having a broken mac, I think you miss-parsed; or maybe I did. "this" mac broke, not "his"?? Certainly you summary is wrong as a synopsis of his comment.
- SyneRyder 10y ago
  That's correct - by "this" Mac I meant the one I'm typing on now. It works at the moment, but it has twice lost the startup drive & refused to start without new replacement components from Apple - not something I expect from brand new hardware bought direct from Apple.
  - davidf18 10y ago
    Very sorry to hear that you're having problems. Macs have had problems with GPUs in the past in Macbook Pros (2011 version?) where Apple has ended up replacing the entire insides (this happened recently on a friends 17" 2011). But (knock on aluminum), I've had 4 macs since 2011 all without hardware problems.

davidf18 10y ago

Sorry, you're getting ripped off "Down Under." I've been to Sydney/Melbourne twice and I love it. Bondi Beach Yeah! But you can get a brand new 15" Macbook Pro Retina for about $1900 total from an authorized dealer. Check out website Appleinsider.com Besides being able to go to stores for Genius Bar help, you're when you call for customer service or tech support you get Americans who are very helpful and speak English well not people from Philippines, India, whatever. Nothing against these people of course, just when it comes to tech support. There was a recent NYTimes article about how companies make tech support awful. Apple is not one of them. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/04/technology/why-tech-support-is-purposely-unbearable.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/04/technology/why-tech-suppor... My times calling Microsoft Tech support (having to do with Office 2016 Mac and other MS products running in Windows 10 VM) were miserable. Switched to the wrong people, people who can't speak english well, who don't seem to understand what I was talking about. Having to call over and over and over again. Part of the added cost of Macs is precisely to ensure that you get quality support and is well worth paying for unless you absolutely cannot afford it.