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Absolutely. How can a society flourish when people are spending all their time for someone else? Full time work leaves little time for your health, family, frie

Absolutely. How can a society flourish when people are spending all their time for someone else? Full time work leaves little time for your health, family, friends, pets, and so on.

amelius 10y ago
But "family, friends, pets" are in the category of "someone else", right? Also by working for someone else, you make money, which you use for your health, family, etc. So either way, I don't get the point.
- ramblerman 10y ago
  Not sure if your being pedantic but your relationship with your 'company' and your friends/family is certainly not the same thing.
  - TheOtherHobbes 10y ago
    Most of us don't work for our pets. (Unless they're cats.) Maybe the whole idea of working for someone is a strange one. Would people still work towards doing cool stuff if they were free to make/break associations on a project basis? There might not be the cycle of hyperconsumption driven by superficial novelty we have now. But would it be replaced by something more or less interesting?
    - icebraining 10y ago
      free to make/break associations on a project basis Isn't that called freelancing?
- tehbeard 10y ago
  > But "family, friends, pets" are in the category of "someone else", right? someone else == no emotional ties You are going on the assumption that money earned by time not spent with loved ones is equivalent to the time that could've been spent with them. "Well then get a better job that is worth it" Not possible in a lot of instances (location, qualifications, balance of power between employed and employers). And money can't replace an afternoon in the park with your kids riding bikes (ok, hunting pokemon in this day and age, but the point still stands)
sbuttgereit 10y ago
Actually, I neither work "for someone else" nor do I spend time with family, friends, etc for someone else either... not even for them. I do all of that for me. That my employers benefit, that family, friends, etc, benefit is besides the point from my perspective. It's not zero sum, after all.
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Absolutely. How can a society flourish when people are spending all their time for someone else? Full time work leaves little time for your health, family, friends, pets, and so on.

amelius 10y ago

But "family, friends, pets" are in the category of "someone else", right? Also by working for someone else, you make money, which you use for your health, family, etc. So either way, I don't get the point.

ramblerman 10y ago
Not sure if your being pedantic but your relationship with your 'company' and your friends/family is certainly not the same thing.
- TheOtherHobbes 10y ago
  Most of us don't work for our pets. (Unless they're cats.) Maybe the whole idea of working for someone is a strange one. Would people still work towards doing cool stuff if they were free to make/break associations on a project basis? There might not be the cycle of hyperconsumption driven by superficial novelty we have now. But would it be replaced by something more or less interesting?
  - icebraining 10y ago
    free to make/break associations on a project basis Isn't that called freelancing?
tehbeard 10y ago
> But "family, friends, pets" are in the category of "someone else", right? someone else == no emotional ties You are going on the assumption that money earned by time not spent with loved ones is equivalent to the time that could've been spent with them. "Well then get a better job that is worth it" Not possible in a lot of instances (location, qualifications, balance of power between employed and employers). And money can't replace an afternoon in the park with your kids riding bikes (ok, hunting pokemon in this day and age, but the point still stands)

sbuttgereit 10y ago

Actually, I neither work "for someone else" nor do I spend time with family, friends, etc for someone else either... not even for them. I do all of that for me. That my employers benefit, that family, friends, etc, benefit is besides the point from my perspective. It's not zero sum, after all.

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