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They've got a very compelling free tier to get you roped in. Works great as a CDN, integrated SSL, great interface, DDoS protection / firewall, page rules - the

They've got a very compelling free tier to get you roped in. Works great as a CDN, integrated SSL, great interface, DDoS protection / firewall, page rules - there are just a few of the useful features. Is there a more comprehensive free tier anywhere else ? P.S. I'm not saying they are the best choice. They are simply too convenient & comprehensive to get started. With a single click your site can "claim" to be HTTPS even though the upstream connection "may not" be encrypted.

aorth 10y ago
DNS!
- api 10y ago
  Amazon Route 53 is better.
  - PuffinBlue 10y ago
    It isn't free, it's more complex to set up and it uses some of its own terminology like 'Hosted Zones' that need to be understood. Just 3 ways in which it's not better. It's probably better if you define the comparison in terms of flexibility/control etc etc, but simply stating it's 'better' doesn't really add anything to the conversation.
    - api 10y ago
      We host a big domain there and it's like five bucks a month. Of course we don't use the more expensive features just basic DNS and the API.
joepie91_ 10y ago
Right, but this is the pretty much precisely the problem. It's just the Nth generation of "just centralize the internet through us and we'll take care of everything for you", but this time marketed at startups. All the usual problems with centralization still apply. (It's still not really "DDoS protection", by the way. They just don't offer that on their free plan.)
- manigandham 10y ago
  The internet is already very centralized far beyond a single CDN company. All you need to do is look at the number of backbone providers and ISPs serving the vast majority of people in the world. CloudFlare being a CDN has very little lock-in and is incredibly easy to move away from, so it speaks to how much value they deliver with their product that they have so many customers.
- giovannibajo1 10y ago
  It only matters because they have no competitors, otherwise you'd say the same applies to AWS hosting the origin servers, and the databases of those very startups likely to use Cloudflare. In the end, if there were true competitors, it probably wouldn't matter much, they would be just one popular service that handed your data like many others
  - manigandham 10y ago
    They also have plenty of competitors, the CDN space has more companies than the ISP space so the internet is already more centralized at a much deeper level. This a silly claim by the OP.

aorth 10y ago

DNS!

api 10y ago
Amazon Route 53 is better.
- PuffinBlue 10y ago
  It isn't free, it's more complex to set up and it uses some of its own terminology like 'Hosted Zones' that need to be understood. Just 3 ways in which it's not better. It's probably better if you define the comparison in terms of flexibility/control etc etc, but simply stating it's 'better' doesn't really add anything to the conversation.
  - api 10y ago
    We host a big domain there and it's like five bucks a month. Of course we don't use the more expensive features just basic DNS and the API.

joepie91_ 10y ago

Right, but this is the pretty much precisely the problem. It's just the Nth generation of "just centralize the internet through us and we'll take care of everything for you", but this time marketed at startups. All the usual problems with centralization still apply. (It's still not really "DDoS protection", by the way. They just don't offer that on their free plan.)

manigandham 10y ago
The internet is already very centralized far beyond a single CDN company. All you need to do is look at the number of backbone providers and ISPs serving the vast majority of people in the world. CloudFlare being a CDN has very little lock-in and is incredibly easy to move away from, so it speaks to how much value they deliver with their product that they have so many customers.
giovannibajo1 10y ago
It only matters because they have no competitors, otherwise you'd say the same applies to AWS hosting the origin servers, and the databases of those very startups likely to use Cloudflare. In the end, if there were true competitors, it probably wouldn't matter much, they would be just one popular service that handed your data like many others
- manigandham 10y ago
  They also have plenty of competitors, the CDN space has more companies than the ISP space so the internet is already more centralized at a much deeper level. This a silly claim by the OP.