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The brilliance of the show is that it portrays dissociative disorders in an extremely realistic fashion. If you didn't identify with that, then you're obviousl

The brilliance of the show is that it portrays dissociative disorders in an extremely realistic fashion. If you didn't identify with that, then you're obviously not part of the subculture that the show portrays and is really made for. Mr Robot is not about the drugs or computer hacking, it's far more grandiose than that. Similarly to Fight Club, it can be viewed as a social study of a subculture that's operating on the frontier of consensus reality and could characterize where that reality will shift in the future. Have you had to juggle multiple identities in your head, every day for years if not decades? Have you thought what this does to you? Have you had to keep secrets from everyone around you? Have you "felt" what cyberspace really is about? Have you experienced the VICIOUS feedback loop of projecting a thoughtform/idea (what the audience views as "hacking") into that new domain only to have it manifest and achieve its own reality, as if by magic? The technical aspects of the show are by far the least interesting.

bananaoomarang 10y ago
I would agree that the technical aspects of the show aren't very interesting, but the way that they are dealt with is remarkable and refreshing for a TV show. Usually these plot lines are jarring to me, but in Mr. Robot they aren't, because they're well researched to be in line with the verisimilitude the rest of the show seems to strive for. It's an aspect of the show (along with it's characters and more on-the-nose satire) that I enjoy. Usual disclaimer that this is my opinion, not trying to come off as snobbish though it might sound that way, but personally, like in Fight Club, I find the show's 'grandiose' attempts to be more than little simplistic. It doesn't effectively/subtly explore anxiety, isolation, schizophrenia, depression etc as well as I think it thinks it does. Honestly most of that narrative feels cheap and repetitive to me. Taken as a satire ('Evil Corp', FSociety/Anonymous etc), the show works for me, but when it spends time plumbing Eliot's mental illness, it becomes dull to me. Some of it I appreciate, and in smaller doses it might work, but for me it's overblown and only elevated by the show's sense of style, not because it's telling the viewer anything of particular interest, or actually advancing any of the plotlines/character developments. I think the show is worse for it. Having said all that I enjoy the show a lot. I'm just not willing to heap praise upon it since I have these reservations.
nxzero 10y ago
>> "Have you "felt" what cyberspace really is about? Have you experienced the VICIOUS feedback loop of projecting a thoughtform/idea (what the audience views as 'hacking') into that new domain only to have it manifest and achieve its own reality, as if by magic?" What would be an example of this? Are you referring to something similar to multiple discovery: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_discovery https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_discovery
- armitron 10y ago
  Hacking [breaking boundaries, making the seemingly impossible possible by pure force of will] is the archetypal example of this. Obviously, the discipline is not new and has been present for thousands of years, any sort of artistic/creative process encapsulates it. The arrival of cyberspace however and its subsumption of more and more aspects of our everyday lives acts as a positive feedback loop. What was unthinkable or even heretical 20-30 years ago is now routine. In a sense, we are witnessing a new paradigm shift where the intermediate substrates (mind/inception to manifestation) are being dissolved and the feedback loop gets shorter.
  - paavokoya 10y ago
    >What was unthinkable or even heretical 20-30 years ago is now routine You can see this with the subsequent breakdown of social structure and monetary philosophy. The masses are reaching harmonization through their own voices rather than having a conductor leading them (politician/bankers/middlemen in general)
baby 10y ago
I think Fight Club is already too old for the new generation, and that's why they might enjoy this show. But if you've seen fight club...
solipsism 10y ago
Ah, you've visited http://wisdomofchopra.com/ http://wisdomofchopra.com/ !

bananaoomarang 10y ago

I would agree that the technical aspects of the show aren't very interesting, but the way that they are dealt with is remarkable and refreshing for a TV show. Usually these plot lines are jarring to me, but in Mr. Robot they aren't, because they're well researched to be in line with the verisimilitude the rest of the show seems to strive for. It's an aspect of the show (along with it's characters and more on-the-nose satire) that I enjoy. Usual disclaimer that this is my opinion, not trying to come off as snobbish though it might sound that way, but personally, like in Fight Club, I find the show's 'grandiose' attempts to be more than little simplistic. It doesn't effectively/subtly explore anxiety, isolation, schizophrenia, depression etc as well as I think it thinks it does. Honestly most of that narrative feels cheap and repetitive to me. Taken as a satire ('Evil Corp', FSociety/Anonymous etc), the show works for me, but when it spends time plumbing Eliot's mental illness, it becomes dull to me. Some of it I appreciate, and in smaller doses it might work, but for me it's overblown and only elevated by the show's sense of style, not because it's telling the viewer anything of particular interest, or actually advancing any of the plotlines/character developments. I think the show is worse for it. Having said all that I enjoy the show a lot. I'm just not willing to heap praise upon it since I have these reservations.

nxzero 10y ago

>> "Have you "felt" what cyberspace really is about? Have you experienced the VICIOUS feedback loop of projecting a thoughtform/idea (what the audience views as 'hacking') into that new domain only to have it manifest and achieve its own reality, as if by magic?" What would be an example of this? Are you referring to something similar to multiple discovery: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_discovery https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_discovery

armitron 10y ago
Hacking [breaking boundaries, making the seemingly impossible possible by pure force of will] is the archetypal example of this. Obviously, the discipline is not new and has been present for thousands of years, any sort of artistic/creative process encapsulates it. The arrival of cyberspace however and its subsumption of more and more aspects of our everyday lives acts as a positive feedback loop. What was unthinkable or even heretical 20-30 years ago is now routine. In a sense, we are witnessing a new paradigm shift where the intermediate substrates (mind/inception to manifestation) are being dissolved and the feedback loop gets shorter.
- paavokoya 10y ago
  >What was unthinkable or even heretical 20-30 years ago is now routine You can see this with the subsequent breakdown of social structure and monetary philosophy. The masses are reaching harmonization through their own voices rather than having a conductor leading them (politician/bankers/middlemen in general)

baby 10y ago

I think Fight Club is already too old for the new generation, and that's why they might enjoy this show. But if you've seen fight club...

solipsism 10y ago

Ah, you've visited http://wisdomofchopra.com/ http://wisdomofchopra.com/ !