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Storage facility will charge for the service because storing physical goods and providing 24/7 security cost money. Last time I checked they will have a clause

by hackits 10y ago

Storage facility will charge for the service because storing physical goods and providing 24/7 security cost money. Last time I checked they will have a clause in the contract if X weeks go by and you have not paid your bill they will auction the items off to recover the debt. Though could be different for different storage facilities. For example, lets reverse this a little bit. Lets say you're storing a clients data, backups, 100tb of data with offsite redundancy. The client doesn't pay for 6 months. You've taken all course of action to contact the client but they're unresponsive. It's now costing you money to maintain and service this data. What do you do?

unimpressive 10y ago
No. That is not the situation here. Pretending like somebody using a 'free' service is equivalent to them being far behind on payments to a storage service is a ridiculous analogy. Google advertises their reliability and nowhere do they tell you to make your own backups or move out. You are not generally in an adversarial relationship with google like you would be to a company you're in debt to. EDIT: This post isn't as well written as I'd like it to be, but parent is bullshit and I think the core argument of "This is not an analogous situation" holds. I need to leave in a few minutes though so I don't have time to write a better argument, sorry. As a short version though, if this was an analogous situation where google had tried to contact this person to take down whatever was objectionable, and warned them that they should back up their stuff immediately since they could decide to take it down on any business day, I bet this guy would have been right on that. They didn't though. Giving them social credit like they did is ridiculous.
- hackits 10y ago
  `nowhere do they tell you to make your own backups`. Nowhere do they tell you that your data will be stored forever. You're making assumptions based on something they haven't even said they would provide `FOR FREE!`.
kuschku 10y ago
I send a letter by certified mail telling them I'll destroy it in 2 weeks, and destroy it then. You always have to inform the user first, even if it's in the contract.
Dylan16807 10y ago
>The client doesn't pay for 6 months. You've taken all course of action to contact the client but they're unresponsive. Now compare that to what google did. They were owed exactly 0 dollars for 0 months, they make no attempt whatsoever to contact the client, and they shredded the data without trying to send it back.
wtetzner 10y ago
Google's services aren't free. They provide services and in return they get to serve advertisements to their users.

by hackits 10y ago

unimpressive 10y ago

No. That is not the situation here. Pretending like somebody using a 'free' service is equivalent to them being far behind on payments to a storage service is a ridiculous analogy. Google advertises their reliability and nowhere do they tell you to make your own backups or move out. You are not generally in an adversarial relationship with google like you would be to a company you're in debt to. EDIT: This post isn't as well written as I'd like it to be, but parent is bullshit and I think the core argument of "This is not an analogous situation" holds. I need to leave in a few minutes though so I don't have time to write a better argument, sorry. As a short version though, if this was an analogous situation where google had tried to contact this person to take down whatever was objectionable, and warned them that they should back up their stuff immediately since they could decide to take it down on any business day, I bet this guy would have been right on that. They didn't though. Giving them social credit like they did is ridiculous.

hackits 10y ago
`nowhere do they tell you to make your own backups`. Nowhere do they tell you that your data will be stored forever. You're making assumptions based on something they haven't even said they would provide `FOR FREE!`.

kuschku 10y ago

I send a letter by certified mail telling them I'll destroy it in 2 weeks, and destroy it then. You always have to inform the user first, even if it's in the contract.

Dylan16807 10y ago

>The client doesn't pay for 6 months. You've taken all course of action to contact the client but they're unresponsive. Now compare that to what google did. They were owed exactly 0 dollars for 0 months, they make no attempt whatsoever to contact the client, and they shredded the data without trying to send it back.

wtetzner 10y ago

Google's services aren't free. They provide services and in return they get to serve advertisements to their users.