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Do you? Can I wire an old iphone into the control system of your car and fire up opencv and a bit of depth estimation and lane following send you off?

Dylan16807 10y ago
Aren't we talking about a plane? And I said I trust a computer more, not that the presence of a computer is automatically enough. I'm not getting in a manually-controlled plane that's flying centimeters from a hard surface. I will get in some computer-controlled planes doing the same. (At the very least I want a real-time OS and dedicated range sensors. And the confidence of a plane owner who would lose millions of dollars if anything went wrong.)
- greendestiny 10y ago
  There are crop dusters that fly close to the ground and obstacles - do you want to get in a manual one or can I code up a computer controlled one and put you in it? What you really mean is you want to see safety data and a track record. As for the actual planes and auto-pilots, the real point is the kinds of engagements and disengagements that work in the air don't necessarily work on the ground and being so close to potential collisions is part of that.
  - Dylan16807 10y ago
    Close, but not constantly centimeters close. It's a whole different league, and not one I'm comfortable trusting a human with.
    - ben_jones 10y ago
      Humans write the software that powers computers FYI.
      - Dylan16807 10y ago
        It's the reaction times I don't trust. And the ability to judge distances precisely enough.
        ben_jones 10y ago
        It's their BAC and amount of sleep I don't trust. Also the prescription medication, the status of any relationships they might have, and the competency of their managers.
- D-Coder 10y ago
  The plane is zero centimeters from a hard surface at the beginning and end of the flight.
  - Dylan16807 10y ago
    Seriously? The implication of the hard barrier is that it's not safe to crash into it. If there are big wheels on enormous shock absorbers making it safe to hit the barrier, then a lot less precision is needed, and you can put almost anything in control, even a heavy clamp that keeps the controls skewed slightly toward the barrier. But that's not the scenario anyone else is talking about.

Dylan16807 10y ago

Aren't we talking about a plane? And I said I trust a computer more, not that the presence of a computer is automatically enough. I'm not getting in a manually-controlled plane that's flying centimeters from a hard surface. I will get in some computer-controlled planes doing the same. (At the very least I want a real-time OS and dedicated range sensors. And the confidence of a plane owner who would lose millions of dollars if anything went wrong.)

greendestiny 10y ago
There are crop dusters that fly close to the ground and obstacles - do you want to get in a manual one or can I code up a computer controlled one and put you in it? What you really mean is you want to see safety data and a track record. As for the actual planes and auto-pilots, the real point is the kinds of engagements and disengagements that work in the air don't necessarily work on the ground and being so close to potential collisions is part of that.
- Dylan16807 10y ago
  Close, but not constantly centimeters close. It's a whole different league, and not one I'm comfortable trusting a human with.
  - ben_jones 10y ago
    Humans write the software that powers computers FYI.
    - Dylan16807 10y ago
      It's the reaction times I don't trust. And the ability to judge distances precisely enough.
      - ben_jones 10y ago
        It's their BAC and amount of sleep I don't trust. Also the prescription medication, the status of any relationships they might have, and the competency of their managers.
D-Coder 10y ago
The plane is zero centimeters from a hard surface at the beginning and end of the flight.
- Dylan16807 10y ago
  Seriously? The implication of the hard barrier is that it's not safe to crash into it. If there are big wheels on enormous shock absorbers making it safe to hit the barrier, then a lot less precision is needed, and you can put almost anything in control, even a heavy clamp that keeps the controls skewed slightly toward the barrier. But that's not the scenario anyone else is talking about.