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Again, this is exactly what was expected and we were told by the experts.

KON_Air 10y ago
But England had enough of experts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a6HNXtdvVQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a6HNXtdvVQ
yAnonymous 10y ago
Did anyone doubt what experts said? I was under the impression that most voters knew about it and still wanted to go ahead with leaving the EU, because they felt their arguments weighted more heavily than economic concerns. It's possible that both sides are correct.
- DavidSJ 10y ago
  Yes, people doubted what experts said. Brexit, along with several other contemporary movements such as Trumpism, have been driven by a profound distrust of the establishment.
  - djschnei 10y ago
    Which is entirely understandable, no? (Hate trump personally, Brexit is a win though)
  - sievebrain 10y ago
    The term "expert" in the referendum debate almost always meant economists and referred to the long range economic impacts. You don't need to be an expert to know the EU will find all kinds of weird ways to try and "punish" the UK for leaving, you just have to listen to men like Juncker. Instead of convincing people their ideas are good, they are 100% focused on maximising the pain of disobeyed Brussels. None of these sorts of things were unexpected by anyone who voted out.
mason240 10y ago
Exactly, they warned that the EU would be as punitive as possible. Their reaction to Brexit it shows that was necessary.
- DasIch 10y ago
  The UK not getting the same things a EU member would get is not being punitive.
  - Chris2048 10y ago
    Is is if it is of mutual benefit, except to the EU in general.
    - throwaway-hn123 10y ago
      No, it still isn't being punitive.
      - Chris2048 10y ago
        Then how do you define punitive?
- mpweiher 10y ago
  Wut? There are certain benefits you get by being a member of this club. I am leaving your club. Then you no longer get the benefits that members of the club get. YOU ARE UNFAIRLY PUNISHING ME!!!!
  - sievebrain 10y ago
    It makes no sense for relations between countries to be structured as an exclusive "club". This just retards progress and leads to stagnation when it becomes impossible to get all the members of the "club" to agree.
    - 10y ago

But England had enough of experts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a6HNXtdvVQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a6HNXtdvVQ

yAnonymous 10y ago

Did anyone doubt what experts said? I was under the impression that most voters knew about it and still wanted to go ahead with leaving the EU, because they felt their arguments weighted more heavily than economic concerns. It's possible that both sides are correct.

DavidSJ 10y ago
Yes, people doubted what experts said. Brexit, along with several other contemporary movements such as Trumpism, have been driven by a profound distrust of the establishment.
- djschnei 10y ago
  Which is entirely understandable, no? (Hate trump personally, Brexit is a win though)
- sievebrain 10y ago
  The term "expert" in the referendum debate almost always meant economists and referred to the long range economic impacts. You don't need to be an expert to know the EU will find all kinds of weird ways to try and "punish" the UK for leaving, you just have to listen to men like Juncker. Instead of convincing people their ideas are good, they are 100% focused on maximising the pain of disobeyed Brussels. None of these sorts of things were unexpected by anyone who voted out.

mason240 10y ago

Exactly, they warned that the EU would be as punitive as possible. Their reaction to Brexit it shows that was necessary.

DasIch 10y ago
The UK not getting the same things a EU member would get is not being punitive.
- Chris2048 10y ago
  Is is if it is of mutual benefit, except to the EU in general.
  - throwaway-hn123 10y ago
    No, it still isn't being punitive.
    - Chris2048 10y ago
      Then how do you define punitive?
mpweiher 10y ago
Wut? There are certain benefits you get by being a member of this club. I am leaving your club. Then you no longer get the benefits that members of the club get. YOU ARE UNFAIRLY PUNISHING ME!!!!
- sievebrain 10y ago
  It makes no sense for relations between countries to be structured as an exclusive "club". This just retards progress and leads to stagnation when it becomes impossible to get all the members of the "club" to agree.
  - 10y ago