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> if you are good enough for that university, you go there. As someone who grew up in EU but now I live in the US, this is something that seriously bugs me. Wh

> if you are good enough for that university, you go there. As someone who grew up in EU but now I live in the US, this is something that seriously bugs me. What lesson should I teach my kids when they go to college? "Son, no matter how hard you study, or you don't study, all that matters is daddy's money to get you into college."

vasilipupkin 10y ago
this is just really not the case in the US. Top universities have need blind admissions - they will subsidize for you to attend. There are in state tuition universities that are affordable, there are grants, scholarships, etc. Percentage of Americans with college degrees is really not any lower than in Europe
- Turing_Machine 10y ago
  Yes. Just about everybody at the elite schools (e.g., Harvard) gets a significant amount of financial aid.
  - nkurz 10y ago
    That's misleading. While it's over half, and while those to do receive aid receive a substantial amount, it's very far from "about everybody": Undergraduate Cost And Financial Aid Families with students on scholarship pay an average of $11,500 annually toward the cost of a Harvard education. More than 65 percent of Harvard College students receive scholarship aid, and the average grant this year is $46,000. http://www.harvard.edu/about-harvard/harvard-glance http://www.harvard.edu/about-harvard/harvard-glance
nostrebored 10y ago
If you are good enough (prepared enough is a better term, probably) for a university in the U.S., odds are that you go there. Is there a disparity in admissions based on wealth? Absolutely, but I believe a very significant portion of that is due to the attitudes of the wealthy towards education. You see a large number of transfers from community colleges in the U.S. to top tier schools as well. CCSF feeds into Berkeley, Georgia Perimeter College feeds into Georgia Tech, etc., etc. The truth is, unless you're hyper-wealthy, your money gets your kid into college through the things that you purchase to further that goal, and the attitudes of children in the same social class.

vasilipupkin 10y ago

this is just really not the case in the US. Top universities have need blind admissions - they will subsidize for you to attend. There are in state tuition universities that are affordable, there are grants, scholarships, etc. Percentage of Americans with college degrees is really not any lower than in Europe

Turing_Machine 10y ago
Yes. Just about everybody at the elite schools (e.g., Harvard) gets a significant amount of financial aid.
- nkurz 10y ago
  That's misleading. While it's over half, and while those to do receive aid receive a substantial amount, it's very far from "about everybody": Undergraduate Cost And Financial Aid Families with students on scholarship pay an average of $11,500 annually toward the cost of a Harvard education. More than 65 percent of Harvard College students receive scholarship aid, and the average grant this year is $46,000. http://www.harvard.edu/about-harvard/harvard-glance http://www.harvard.edu/about-harvard/harvard-glance

nostrebored 10y ago

If you are good enough (prepared enough is a better term, probably) for a university in the U.S., odds are that you go there. Is there a disparity in admissions based on wealth? Absolutely, but I believe a very significant portion of that is due to the attitudes of the wealthy towards education. You see a large number of transfers from community colleges in the U.S. to top tier schools as well. CCSF feeds into Berkeley, Georgia Perimeter College feeds into Georgia Tech, etc., etc. The truth is, unless you're hyper-wealthy, your money gets your kid into college through the things that you purchase to further that goal, and the attitudes of children in the same social class.