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> None of these have anybody (of statistically significant percentage) outside the UK salivating Have you ever tried a traditional English pie? I'm a bit biase
by orf 10y ago
> None of these have anybody (of statistically significant percentage) outside the UK salivating
Have you ever tried a traditional English pie? I'm a bit biased obviously, but as an anecdote my Italian co-worker who moved here recently absolutely loves them (and I can't help but say 'who ate all the pies, guido?' to him). They don't have that kind of pastry in their cuisine at all and he can't get enough of them. It's a national cuisine, just because not a huge number of people outside the UK eat it doesn't make it bad in any way.
> or have ever created something like a "British restaurant" to be found abroad
You're right, cuisine isn't our major cultural export (I'd say that's TV) but it's hard to find authentic national food outside of the respective nation. Most Italians would cry at the sight of most of the "Italian food" served at "Italian restaurants", just because it's not a label you can stick on your restaurant doesn't mean it's bad...
> Bacon, sausages, eggs, and beans? I think nutritionists can point to at least 20 other candidate countries for that title...
You forgot the hash browns, black pudding and toast, all in huge quantities. Also that went way over your head, it's possibly the most unhealthy breakfast in the world when done right.
- CalRobert 10y agoYou know, I just realized that I really miss pasties after a night out when I don't have them around. And let's not forget that English cheese can be spectacular! Certainly there are great foods to be had, but on the whole it seems it's not the UK's strong suit.
- wtbob 10y ago> They don't have that kind of pastry in their cuisine at all and he can't get enough of them. Well, Italians have pastry in their cuisine — but they boil it and call it pasta grin
- Yhippa 10y agoWhat do you consider to be a traditional English pie? I need to make sure I have one of these.
- orf 10y agoSteak and Ale, Steak and Kidney, Chicken and Mushroom, Pheasant and other game (that's not as common though). If you want a great one then make sure it's from a small, non-chain pub somewhere in the countryside for the full English experience. Pork Pies are pies as well I guess, but they are a different beast and as nice (no gravy, solid filling) unless you get an amazing melton mowbray one.
- jimbokun 10y ago"You're right, cuisine isn't our major cultural export (I'd say that's TV)" Probably cultural products more generally, including books and music.
- casta 10y agoWouldn't an English pie be similar to something like "torta pasqualina"? It's not usual to see a pie with meat in Italy, usually its filling it's all vegetables/eggs, seldom some ham. There are plenty though.
- orf 10y ago> Wouldn't an English pie be similar to something like "torta pasqualina"? Nope, nothing like that, I think. English pies use thicker pastry, are filled with gravy and never anything green. Something like this[1] gives you an idea. Perhaps it's the sort of equivalent, but the Italian I work with says there is nothing like them that he's ever had in Italy. 1. http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/3148692/dads-beef-mushroom-and-mustard-pies http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/3148692/dads-beef-mushroo...
- casta 10y agoIf I search "traditional English pie" I see images of something more similar to what I suggested than the image you linked. I'm in the U.S., so the search results might be affected by my location. edit: I tried on google.co.uk and I get more results similar to what you suggested.
- orf 10y agoYeah I think that's google trickery. How strange though, I would have thought the search "traditional English pie" shouldn't/wouldn't be affected by the location.
- casta 10y agoIf you search "Carbonara" in the U.S. you get something with cream, peas and garlic. So, it's definitely affected. :)